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    Baidarka and The Aleut Route to Lake Superior's Ores

    Damn! I wrote a long article and it is gone. Oh Well here is what I was going to include. Rather than saying what I usually say from the work of Joan Price, Professor Scherz and Cyclone Covey - here is a link that mentions them all and the mound cultures as well as Atlantis stuff.


    Journey to a village in Alaska, where present-day Aleuts are introduced to a native craft not seen in nearly a century -- the baidarka, an ocean-going kayak of legendary speed and stealth. With limited information on the original craft's design, builder and designer George Dyson decided to reconstruct an authentic baidarka.

    Thousands of years ago, the original baidarka was made from a wooden frame covered with sealskin. Aleut baidarkas could probably maintain speeds on the water of about 91/2 knots (10 mph).

    To get the baidarka up to its reputed speed, archaeologists believe the Aleuts of old must have possessed unusual strength and stamina. Indeed, physical anthropologist William Laughlin, who has studied Aleuts for many decades, determined that the ancient Aleuts had enlarged humerus bones (long bone extending from the elbow to the shoulder), indicating unusually large muscles. The Aleuts probably kayaked in baidarkas every day, from childhood to old age. The push/pull kayaking motion puts maximum stress on the humerus - supporting the theory that exercise builds bones.

    The real test of the rebuilt baidarka occurred when Dyson and his crew took the craft onto the ocean to find out if the baidarka could attain its reputed high speeds (Frontiers shows 203 and 305). Through Dyson's work on the ancient baidarka, Aleuts have been able to connect with a legacy from their ancestors.

    An authentic baidarka measured about 15 feet long and 20 inches wide. In this activity, you'll build a model of an Aleutian baidarka about one foot long.


    •5 1' lengths of 1/16" balsa stringer
    •polyurethane spray or latex-based paint
    •poster board
    •wax paper
    •kite string
    •white glue
    •glue brush
    •tissue paper
    •tub of water

    1.Photocopy, cut out and trace the bulkhead and bow templates (below) onto poster board. Each model needs three bulkheads and one bow piece.

    2.Place two balsa stringers on a flat surface covered with wax paper. Align and glue the bottom of the bulkheads to the stringers (see diagram below).

    3.When the glue has set, glue the three remaining stringers into place. Let dry.

    4.Carefully bring the five stringers together and secure with a piece of kite string. Add glue and allow to dry.

    5.When the frame has dried, attach the bow by gluing its top edge to either side of the center stringer. Then coat the entire frame with a fine layer of glue and cover it with sections of tissue paper.

    6.When dry, coat the tissue paper with polyurethane spray or latex-based paint.

    7.Test your model baidarka to see how it floats in a tub of water.


    Builder and scientist George Dyson writes about the Aleutian craft in his book Baidarka. To find out more, search online for sites about baidarkas and sea kayaks. Since the original Frontiers episode was broadcast, Dyson has also written a book about the future of artificial intelligence, Darwin Among the Machines: The Evolution of Global Intelligence (Helix Books, Addison Wesley, 1997).

    The Hadji Ahmed and Piri Reis maps show a lot more knowledge of this area than academics thought existed - but some people always knew.
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    “Only two breeds of native dogs owned by hunters are really useful enough to matter. One is the Ainu deerhound (The Ainu were once in control of the island of Hokkaido, north of Japan.), the other the husky or sled dog known to us mostly through the Eskimo. Both were concerned with snow, the Ainu hounds in winter hunting, the Eskimo dogs for winter transport on land. Both were native breeds, parts of the cultural equipment of the peoples concerned. Neither the Ainu nor the Eskimo will be blackballed from the hunter's club because of their dogs... I am not making fun of hunters. I respect and admire them. Before being overrun by the snowball of modern civilization they led full and satisfactory lives, and it will do us no harm to reflect on the advantages of some of their age-old ways of dealing with nature and with each other…

    A plea for the appreciation of shamans:

    In the anthropological literature, shamans have often been categorized as natural neurotics who would have been social misfits in a society like our own--the craziest hunters of all. Actually they are exceptionally intelligent and well-disciplined men, as able to hunt as nonshamans are. Their ability to go into a trance is not automatic. Meditation is one way. Dancing and singing monotonously can produce hyperventilation and ecstatic states, as we know from physiological studies of Muslim dervishes, and the same is true of "Holy Rollers". - Bushmen and Veddas also go into mass trances. Being able to swallow and regurgitate objects takes practice and dedication, but it can be done. Once in India I saw a magician bring up several undersized billiard balls from his stomach.

    Missionaries and other early observers often referred to shamans as imposters, because of their sleight of hand, ventriloquism, and other attention-getting devices. But it is hard to see how these maneuvers are any more fraudulent than some of the symbolic procedures in our own religious ceremonies.Shamans are also given credit for extrasensory perception, clairvoyance, and telekinesis (which means moving objects by "mental" rather than by "physical" energy).Two close observers of the hunting scene, R.P. Trilles and Martin Gusinde, were not convinced that shamans completely lack these powers, and new evidence from the Soviet Union indicates that these "psychic" phenomena are being studied there seriously.{Actually places like the FRNM where a lady friend of mine worked had a ten year head start according to recent research by journalists and others looking into U.S. use of mind control tools that we have reported upon. His source is a good one - it is 'Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain from 1970, by Ostrander and Schroeder.}Here a special point may be made. None of these "psychic" activities requires advanced technical equipment; nothing more may be needed than a few quartz crystals{Remember the covering of the mounds at places like New Grange.} or a length of cord to be swallowed. In this sense shamanism may be nearly as old as human speech, and it is only natural to find it more developed among the Australians, Fuegians, and Eskimo than it is among ourselves. We have other means of projecting messages through the air invisibly, of predicting the weather and the time when the striped bass will arrive, and of moving things with little human physical effort." (9)

    The matter of the New Zealand Kelts that the Maoris and British combined to eradicate in the 19th century and the Easter Islanders, who we have already dealt with, might have a technological connection. The Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand but their language is an ancient Polynesian one similar to Hawaiian as we have demonstrated from the scholars who should know these things. The war canoes of the Haida Nation of Vancouver Island area are similar to these Maori and Samoan technologies. But all these things are further south than the pre-Aleut 'mummy people' who disappeared completely after the Russians arrived in 1741. The Eskimo people still have some of their genetic material and perhaps some shamanic knowledge as they have the Elder Councils and other cultural connections. All these peoples have a definite connection - they were light-skinned, they were eliminated in a short time by Christians, they are not often studied by archaeology. Fortunately the Arctic Tundra probably has preserved some of their remains that escaped the Christian zealots who destroyed all they could.

    "The first Russian ships arriving on Kodiak Island were driven away by armed men using these huge shields which were proof even against cannon fire. {The wood may even have been ironwood and as good as any metal till the 20th century in protecting oneself. There are many such strong woods in the tropics or Yucatan, and the Aleut mummy people traded with the Mayans.} The natives openly attacked, driving the Russians off the beaches under a rain of stones thrown from catapults, spears, darts and lances. The Russians retreated, but suffered extensive losses of ships and men.

    The Aleuts used a decimal system that could tabulate up to 100,000, and used a 12-month calendar. They manufactured a white parchment that has endured through the ages. They made fishing nets, harpoon lines and 'bidarka' ropes from the core of seaweed.{Is this the key ingredient in their faster than present kayaks?} and wove baskets and sleeping mats from the roots of tall grass. Geese were domesticated by catching them during the molting season and then clipping their wings; thus a yearly supply was assured. They had a working knowledge of astronomy and anatomy: human and animal, setting simple fractures and performing some operations... one in particular being the removal of eye abscesses.{The shamanic herbal and 'psychic surgery' that still exists in Brazil and the Philippines might prove another world traveled knowledge that these people shared with the Druids. Nah. Just more speculative co-incidences.}Experts at sea, they were fearless in their pursuit of whales, walrus, sea-coast sea-lions and seals. They had the world's first weather bureau.

    After a hunter grew too old to hunt, he was often trained in the art of weather forecasting. Atmospheric pressure, air density, wind velocity and temperatures were used along with centuries of observation of local weather conditions to enable the observers to render competent daily forecasts. Spears, arrows and javelins were used in hunting, as well as in warfare. The poison on their darts was the trade secret of a selected few. It was manufactured from putrid oil and the powdered root of monkshood. Combustible sulphur was used to start fires, with sparks being struck from rocks containing pyrite. They also mined copper and iron sulphides, oxides, synite, slate, sandstone pumice, greenstone, and many other minerals, which they used as paint for their lamps, dishes, tables, tools and weapons. The present archaeological theory is that the iron weapons that were used among these people came with them across the Bering Sea. However, Dr. Fredericka de La Guna disputes that point, (in her

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    'Archaeology of the Cook Inlet'

    {Cook noted many white people in his voyage, and had high regard for these seafarers.} stating that no comparisons have ever been made to identify placement. {The Scientific American article makes it clear these crafts could travel up to nine knots per hour and that they would have been able to go back and forth between the islands. Trade would be a natural for these people.}The Smithsonian Institution, in Washington, D.C., is the only official repository for the few remaining Alaskan mummies. {One photo he/she has, shows the same sitting position of a buried chief in the Beothuk area of Newfoundland. This practice seems to be common in many places but limited to the special few wherever it is done. The case of the Beothuk one shows the body was disinterred and the bones painted with the spiritual red ochre, that they wore on their bodies and led to the name 'redskins'.} Large numbers of them were burned by early Christian missionaries jealous of all forms of 'paganism'. But there are doubtless many more yet to be unearthed in the frozen northlands. Perhaps enough will be found in future excavations to determine once and for all the identity of this fair-haired people who long ago dominated what has since become the largest state in the Union." (10)

    In this same issue of Ancient American there is another article on Malta by Frank Joseph which draws a detailed connection between Colombia, South America and the Malta megalithic temples that has this important point:
    "Professor Frendo pointed to the same design motifs and neolithic building procedures in Ireland, particularly at the winter-solstice-oriented chamber-mound thirty miles north of Dublin, at the Boyne River Valley, known as New Grange, from the Keltic sun-god, 'Greine'." (11

    Here we also find subterranean rooms and housing potential just like the Ainu and these Aleuts of old. The Hal Safleini site has another similar construction that we have noted in New Hampshire at what is called Mystery Hill. Here we see Bel, the Keltic God we know is the same as Ba'al of the Phoenicians. There is a written record stating the Phoenicians were welcome to worship at Mystery Hill, etched in stone. But Prof. Frendo did not mention any transoceanic contact when he spoke at the Smithsonian on April18th. Why? We should feel good about his daring to draw the connection to Ireland and leave the matter of worldwide culture to later times, I suppose.

    In the matter of the Beothuk there are many books written by highly credible people who are shocked at the behavior of the good Christians who put a bounty on their head. Pierre Berton and Farley Mowat have popularized their plight. We wonder if their unique double-crescent, three-peaked canoes will ever show up in drawings or artifacts among the Adena-Hopewell civilization. They may have originated in the far north and have come from the same stock as the Aleuts but we expect the truth is more likely as this next author notes.

    "The Beothuk were the last descendants of the "Lost Red Paint People" of the "Maritime Archaic" and "Archaic Boreal", spread from Labrador to the tip of New Jersey. Traces go back to 7,000 B.C. L'Anse Amour (south Labrador shore) is carbon-dated to 5500 B.C., the oldest known burial mound in the Americas. Port aux Choix, on north-west Newfoundland, is 2200 to 1200 years old. (Dorset Eskimo overlays only begin 500 to 200 B.C.).Red Paint artifacts are curiously similar to those of Mesolithic Norway to megalithic Brittany (5200 B.C.). Heavy woodwork stone gouges, stone sinker plummets, (tapered
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    The debates about when seafaring began are almost humorous but the following book seems to allow a Lower Paleolithic possibility does exist. That seems to mean they are in line with archaeology having found human artifacts dated to 825,000 years ago on Flores Island. I have not read the whole book but it could even mean as long ago as 1.4 million years ago they are beginning to see man traveled on the ocean with forethought and design, rather than being cast adrift and mistakenly arriving in some place only 40,000 years or so ago as many teacher types still argue. The least amount of age for the Lower Paleolithic is 250,000 years and even that would be acceptable if they were talking major flotillas such as went from the Carolina Islands to Hawaii 150,000 years ago. Botany proves the flora and fauna are not all indigenous and they can prove where the origins are - a long way to travel in rafts with outrigger dugouts, but very much in line with what happened all over Polynesia and the Ainu populated it.

    Clearly it was important to know the currents, and have maps of some kind to guide the way. When did this knowledge become a valuable secret? If the Hadji Ahmed map the Library of Congress paid big money for a decade ago tells us we knew how the Bering Strait was 12,500 years ago which only recent USAF mapping technology learned in the mid 20th Century it is easy to imagine some knowledge a=was at least crudely mapped 13,000 years ago for this very far off area of our planet. I just checked out Hadji Ahmed and perhaps I made a mistake. It could be the Piri Re'is map which the Library of Congress bought. However, the comment that there are errors is laughable - there are errors in almost every map and certainly those of this era. The map I have seen attached as Hadji Ahmed's map before have Ptolemy's total fiction of the Mediterranean which I have always thought was intentionally misleading.

    In more recent times we know this knowledge was hidden with every manner of fear tactic.

    If historians are reluctant to write new histories and give credit to the verbal traditions where can we look for proof the historians and their religious or national interests have lied? EVERYWHERE! Every science is proving history has been purposefully kept from people in order to manage them. What follows addresses the Flat Earth and 'monsters at the edge of it' fiction designed to keep people around their farms in case the elites wanted to use them for a war. But I say it was also because (as Pseudo-Aristotle reported in Carthage) that the elites wanted to stop people from messing with their secret trade in the Americas which provided huge wealth for at least two millennia.


    Mariolakos I.D.1

    1 National and Kapodistrian University of Athens, Faculty of Geology and Geoenvironment, Department of Dynamic, Tectonic & Applied Geology, Panepistimioupoli, Zografou, 157 84, Athens, Greece, [email protected]


    Many believe that the Greek Mythology is a figment of the vivid imagination of the ancient Greeks. Consequently, the Greek Myths are all fantastic stories. In my opinion, this view is erroneous, at least on the subject concerning the geographic and physical-oceanographic characteristics of the Atlantic Ocean, as these were described mainly by Homer, Hesiod, the Orphics and Plutarch.

    In the present paper (i) some of the references made by the above mentioned authors are selectively reported, and (ii) the physical and geological validation is given, based on the present-day scientific views and knowledge. Namely, the prehistoric Greeks knew about the Hyperboreans, the island of Ierne (Ireland), the British isle etc., by the Orphics. {AKA - Bards}

    From the writings of Plutarch, they knew
    (i) the relative position of the present-day Iceland (Ogygia) and its distance from Britain,
    (ii) that to the west of Iceland, three other islands are located, where the sun sets for only an hour a day,
    (iii) that further to the west there is a “great continent”, which surrounds the Ocean and more.

    Homer and Hesiod wrote that
    (i) the Ocean is a “river” that flows continuously,
    (ii) that this river encircles the Earth and
    (iii) that its flow is turbulent not only on the surface, but in depth as well. Unfortunately, all this knowledge was gradually forgotten by all. {No - it was suppressed! And 'encircled' puts the boots to any thought of the Earth being flat.} This is the reason why Odyssey is considered just an entertaining poem and Ulysses’ nostos a fantastic story, with no trace of historic reality."
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