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    Lafitte/Rothschild and Tredegar Morgans

    This article was crafted when I was working on a book about important pirates. Eventually I found out many answers to questions raised in this article which starts off dealing with a lawyer in France who is a Lafitte. I discovered that Jean Lafitte's home in Galveston which was named Maison Rouge became the home of the Houses including two seventh sons of great adeptness - one named Colonel Edward Mandell House is the greatest shadow governor of the US in the 20th Century. Lafitte was an alchemist or claimed this, his brothers were high Masons.

    The following missive starts to show a little of what I suspected and when I receive the documents my book on these people will have many other avenues to explore I am sure.

    "I have documents concerning one Jean Lafitte, it is possibly Jean Lafitte the pirate after Galveston. Jean Lafitte lived in Cuba with Arsenne Lacarriere Latour. In a letter dated 1829 from Latour to Edward Livingstone Latour identified Jean Lafitte with the name code "Maison Rouge". It is the name of the house of Jean Lafitte at Galveston. In 1827 this Jean Lafitte went to Bordeaux, his native city and bought a castle named "Chateau Lafitte" and other house named "Maison Rouge" at Gradignan near BORDEAUX. Jean Lafitte's death occurred on 14/03/1858 at GRADIGNAN (this village of Gradignan is the village of the DELAS family). In New Orleans archives exists a Delas/Lafitte connexion. This coincidences are very very strange because it's possible Jean Lafitte the pirate after Galveston and Cuba returned to France at Bordeaux the native city and I have a photo post card of this "Maison Rouge" with the French inscription: 'La Maison Rouge ayant appartenu ├ Jean Lafitte 1828/1858.This message for Pam Keyes a Jean Lafitte specialist. Best regards. P. LAFITTE.'" (1)

    This person lives in France and he mentions another name that a person from that region would have known. Latour is also a name on wines like Chateau Latour. I have asked him to say if he knows of a connection to the Rothschilds and that would be a stroke of good fortune. He is sending the documents he has. It is just as likely that they bought the castle and there is no familial relationship. However, I must also check into the Cathar connection to Lafitte or the Catalan Tartessian connection that Columbus and other seafarers have. This will require a whole chapter as will some of the things I already know about Cuba and the secret societies. The Edward Livingstone referred to above is very important and we will delve into some of his work with Lafitte and payoffs to American Presidents or other parties later. Maison Rouge is indeed a good name for those who trade in blood. When Edward Livingston is given a huge amount of money by Lafitte is it of interest that he was aide-de-camp to Jackson and both were Masons? I will show it is.

    Upon receipt of the documents from Patrick I am finding Joseph Bonaparte and Jean Lafitte tried to break Napoleon out of St. Helena before the British poisoned him. I am now pretty sure that Lafitte was indeed a spy in the gambit of Hibernians like Robespierre, Champlain and Columbus as well as Rumford and maybe even my own ancestor Rufus King.

    Before returning to his native Bordeaux to buy a castle in the same manner that Del Monte and other Templarist/Hibernians before him have done when their tasks were complete; Jean Lafitte lived on the Island of Women (Isla Mujeres) near present-day Cancun and close to the potion growing region that we think might be connected with sexual magic and spying such as other Virgin Islanders and Merovingian 'Sons of Widows' or Miriams have done in other eras of history I have researched. Maybe he just enjoyed his 'fun' and there was nothing more to it you might say. However, it is widely acknowledged that he worked for the Spanish Crown as an agent and we find him involved with the French who ships appeared under his Skull and Bones flag at the Battle of New Orleans. Does this not seem a man who was above mere national interests? Like Robespierre the Irishman who started the French Revolution and Hapsburg/DuPont Merovingians I have shown are in Delaware these people have played all sides of national and supranational interest throughout recorded history and before. In fact Lafitte tried to spring Napoleon from St. Helena and this deserves understanding. Was he going to assist in killing him for Josephine and the British? Was he unsure the arsenic would work before the historian Las Casas was told all Napoleon knew? There are many possibilities and I will likely have no definite answers. (Please look at this site too. http://www.barefootsworld.net/13essay6.html)

    HENRY MORGAN OF THE TREDEGAR MORGANS:

    "Perhaps the best known Morgan Family were in residence at Tredegar House, near Newport, Gwent in 1402. Throughout the centuries well-kept family records indicate connections with most British land-owning families. The Morgans of Tredegar were followers of Queen Elizabeth I.

    On 17 July 1645, Charles I came to Tredegar House as a guest of the Morgans.

    The 18th and 19th centuries saw great changes in Wales from an agrarian to an Industrial economy. The iron and coal discoveries in Glamorgan and Monmouthshire changed the scenery of the country...

    The turn of the century found Tredegar the site of great parties. These and death duties caused the decline of the Morgans of Tredegar. After World War II, the estate was sold to a religious order and in the 1970's, the County of Newport took the estate over.

    King Charles I stayed in the house in 1645 before his execution in 1649, and the County of Monmouthshire (now Gwent) and the town of Newport owe much to development by successive Morgans. Included must be the famous Captain Henry Morgan, twice Governor of Jamaica in the 17th century." (2)

    Clearly this was a well-heeled family long before Sir Henry went off to murderously deceive his own men and practice his debauched and murderous mania.

    The Welsh Dragons may include Jefferson, Adams and other Pendragon Royals including the Gisors and Brutti - here is a full article from someone else that might whet your appetite for some truth.
    [http://korea.humanists.net/hak/essay...Was%20Won.doc]
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    BRITAIN AND BOOTY:

    The bulk of this chapter will be taken from a book about the War of 1812. I must deconstruct the generalities and interpret the meaning as it relates to our investigation of hegemony and cronyism or Synarchy. Officers in the wars of these times got a percentage of the booty their underlings took. They also were frequently aligned with the enemy or other side as you can see in the movie Braveheart. The Black Market in modern wars has a lot of the same kind of thing. This incentive to go to war has a lot of impact on us still. The British had just taken about 2,000 slaves or 'runaways' from near Baltimore to be part of the workforce in the Canadian Maritime Provinces. As we have noted already, the American Enlightenment Experiment had come about when Nobles in America saw their British cousins were freeing their slaves. It was not the only reason to secede but it was probably more important than the reasons usually presented in American immigration exams or schools. Sometimes it is cheaper not to have to care for your workforce if you have a system that keeps them in place.

    "New Orleans, located a hundred miles up the Mississippi River, was a particularly tempting target. With a population of almost 25,000, it was the largest city west of the Appalachian Mountains. It was also the principal outlet for western commodities, and millions of dollars of produce was blockaded in the port. Scottish naval officers like Cochrane were known to have a keen eye for booty, and the British brought large cargo ships with them to carry off their plunder. (1) Indeed, British prisoners of war and deserters claimed that the watch-word and countersign on the morning of the Battle of New Orleans was 'beauty and booty'. (2)

    Initially British officials saw this campaign as a means of taking pressure off Canada. But by the time the operation got under way, the objective had changed. General Ross-who was supposed to lead the expedition-was instructed 'To obtain command of the embouchure [mouth] of the Mississippi, so as to deprive the back settlements of America of their communication with the sea' and 'to occupy some important and valuable possession, by the restoration of which the conditions of peace might be improved, or which we might be entitled to exact the cession of, as the price of peace.' Ross was to encourage the free inhabitants to revolt but was to make no binding promises about the future. '[Y]ou must give them clearly to understand that Great Britain cannot pledge herself to make the independence of Louisiana, or its restoration to the Spanish Crown, a sine qua non of peace with the United States.'(3)

    As a preliminary to the main expedition, in May of 1814 Cochrane dispatched a shipload of arms to Indians on the Apalachicola River in Spanish Florida." (4)

    So we are able to ask a lot of questions at this juncture I hope.

    We know that the race card was being used by Britain in this war and there are reasons to think that the founding of the United State had more to do with slavery in the first place than any Tea Party or taxes. Britain had outlawed slavery a decade before the US was created. Slavery in Greece was worse than at any time in the US or elsewhere, although Columbus (an agent of the Holy Alliance and Hibernian or Alumbrados forces) certainly did more than most Greek states in this regard. He was engaging in mass genocide on purpose so I do not consider it mere slavery. I am not sure he actually wanted to do it and if those who ordered him to do things knew what would result.

    That is not the whole reason for the creation of the United States and there could be a good argument made for the forces of the so-called New World Order acting to make the US what it has become. I have shown the Indians are often agents for the Synarchists or elite and secret societies in many books and you can find the Sioux acting on behalf of them in this book. Joseph Brant and Sitting Bull are part of the same continuum including the Mediwiwin Society which was Masonic before the arrival of the explorers and some people think Abraham Lincoln was a Melungeon. I think the Bairds are similarly connected to the Huguenots. We will see a religious Baird of the 19th Century wrote extensively about the Huguenots. But all of this intrigue is just the icing on the cake or superficial factoids of public sensationalism. The fact is far more sophisticated and the forces of power are using a 'play both ends against the middle' or Hegelian Dialectic.

    The British were able to enter Pensacola with the assistance of the local Spanish officials. But the Spanish did not like Major Nicholls recruiting slaves and calling on all slaves to rebel against their 'imbecile governments'. He then tried to take Mobile which had been taken by the Americans in 1813. I ask you to think long and hard about Jean Lafitte and his role as a Spanish agent at this juncture. The British and Americans were offering him an independent state of Barateria. Was he really just a businessman engaged in slavery? Why did he work with the Americans and were the British sealing off the mouth of the Mississippi to stop his Baraterian pirates from getting their booty? Were the Spanish not unlike the French in their sale of the Louisiana Purchase; at some high level inside the Inner Sanctum? I remind you that the Spanish Government was a mere vassal state for the Vatican since long before Rodrigo Borgia held the Papal Bull addressing incest over the heads of Isabella and Ferdinand.

    Most important to consider is a secret arrangement between Britain and Rome that apparently was last expressed at the Treaty of Verona. This agreement is called the Holy Alliance and some people think the Maritime Laws are part of it. I am sure they are a mere and simple example of the whole gambit however. It is connected with the Treaty of Tordesillas and the make up of the New World Order. The elite have in fact managed both sides for far longer than this and there are certain families who have used nations as mere fronts for a very long time. It goes back long before what we call history. Same people - all the time - in every century for at least the 5,000 years James Joyce referred to as a 'nightmare' as quoted by Campbell in Gimbutas' Language of the Goddess.

    http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_d...p?q=1326741749
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    The next link is a very sound economic evaluation yet it does not show the origin of the Physiocrats who had worked corporatism since the Aeneunati before the Trojan War, if not even before that. The canons, bulls and acts of Popes have never been far away from mercantilism. Eusebius admitted he bought the Bishopric of Paris for mercantile reasons. Rodrigo Borgia and other Popes handing out monopolies made mega fortunes. Read Will and Ariel Durant's history of life in Portugal a century after Columbus - please.

    http://professor.business.ualberta.c...wp_version.pdf

    Aeneunati (sp?) means the same as the leader of The Priory of Sion who is called the Nautonnier. And I could go further and say the titles of Egyptian Pharaohs which included Pelasgi (Phoenician sea people or Hyksos) is the same thing. Rich people have always hung out and shared their interests. The following link relates to the Bilderbergs who are far too public nowadays to really be considered as meaningful. It changed a few years ago when the authors mentioned in the link got inside the meetings. They think it started in Venice and that certainly was an important Dark Ages center of intrigue. I see nothing wrong with One World Government but I see a lot wrong with elite control of all assets. These people see the Committee of 300 as the central clearing house of all plans. I have found so many claims to be most or highest on the totem pole - and I find a connection between all of them but no one basket has all the apples. In fact committees are well known as ineffective decision making forums. You can take the number of participants and divide that into the IQ of the dumbest person in the group and get the effective group potential. I also disagree that The Club of Rome seeks the sane result of asset control they say. The groups that make the best decisions have been three in number and when St. Germain and El Moryu sat on these councils almost everything that has happened for over three centuries was set in motion. Jean Lafitte funded communism's beginnings when he gave 50,000 to Engels or Marx (I grow tired of checking every detail.) and he may have started unions too. I think he hooked up with DuPont de Nemours but I can only prove they were around Nemours at the same time.

    http://conspiracy-theory-secrets.com...lack-nobility/

    I guess I should laugh. I went to verify what I said about Lafitte funding the Communist Manifesto and found there are loads of reports on it now. When I first discovered it about ten years ago I remember being somewhat amazed and telling Jim Marrs a few additional things in case he could check into them. Jim is from Texas, of course. Some of the reports go further than saying he funded it - they say commissioned. And now there is no major academic or journalistic idea that he was dead at that point. In fact I found the following and began reading - it sounded like me! Damned if it wasn't my work but my name was not there. I have found a lot of this. Maybe it is best because a lot of places that had my work have been discouraged from carrying it. There once was over 365,000 hits when I keyed in my name and now it is less than 5,000. Usually it can be found on sites having a product to sell and sometimes a load of marketing crap inserted into it. This site is relevant to Lafitte.

    http://www.espionage-store.com/spy/Illuminati.html

    I just blew my running nose into some toilet paper after watching Gentleman's Agreement again. I threw it into the toilet and flushed it away just as I would have liked to flush away any memory of all the bigotry and hypocrisy that I have endured watching what people do to the supposedly weaker people all around them. This movie and it's script won all manner of awards and deserves to be used in schools along with many other great movies - if we wanted to change the ethic which rules our society.

    No way I can hold a candle to the author's skill and it won't help me to say they shouldn't have stopped with anti-Semitism and racism. The einsteinian professor who pointed out there are no Jews that science can prove and no god his science could accept was a delight to hear as he pointed out the differences between Zionism and brotherhood. Gregory Peck's fiancÚ or John Garfield as the Jewish buddy telling her that is what a man wants in a wife - a buddy to help him deal with the hard times - I can't say there was any one moment that made me well up and sniffle.

    I feel the same way when I engage in my fight against misogyny or the supposed mentally ill and disabled victims of the same ego and upside down stinking-thinking. I can write a mountain of words proving alienation and corruption are problems beyond the blame of any one group or ideology. I can lay out a plan that would answer all the problems and even give a decent attempt at prioritizing those problems so everyone can believe we can change the world. But I can't really make much difference. I have tried so long it hurts.

    The mother just had a stroke and had read the article Peck had written about being a Jew for eight weeks. She said his father would have loved to read how he saw freedom as central to the cause of Brotherhood. He said he couldn't blame the bigots any more than the Cathies (His fiancÚ) and those who made the Gentleman's Agreements to avoid facing the problems. The problem is being polite - not facing the intensity he felt and energy he needed to address the false politeness or political correctness. LORD do I know this part in the play of life.

    But Garfield met his fiancÚ and agreed to move his family to her home where she could fight the bigots if she heard any of them talking. That is why I need to go blow my nose and dry my eyes again! The mother then said maybe the 20th Century would be the century of the people. Sorry I am to testify - things are worse, because people still think that way. Yes, the blacks and Jews are freer but remember To Kill a Mockingbird and Robert Duvall's heroic portrayal of a mental deficient. Remember Einstein was a dyslexic - remember Ritalin!
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    BAKUNIN AND JEFFERSON:

    There are many ways I can illustrate that Stalin was the CEO of Russia on behalf of the international financiers that include Lord Rothschild who told the Czar he would do what he did. Stalin was a Catholic trained seminarian. Here is Noam Chomsky making a most important connection.

    Politics has become something totally absurd. We see Mr. Chomsky makes a good case for something quite the opposite of what people call democracy, being in fact, social engineering by elites.

    "A similar move from Stalinist commissar to celebration of America is quite standard in modern history, and it doesn't require much of a shift in values, just a shift in judgment as to where power lies.

    Independently of Jefferson and Bakunin, others were coming to the same understanding in the nineteenth century. One of the leading American intellectuals was Charles Francis Adams, who in 1880 described the rise of what is now called the "post-industrial society" by Daniel Bell and Robert Reich and John Kenneth Galbraith and others. This is 1880, remember. A society in which, Adams says, 'the future is in the hands of our universities, our schools, our specialists, our scientific men and our writers and those who do the actual work of management in the ideological and economic institutions.' Nowadays they're called the "technocratic elite" and the "action intellectuals" or the new class or some other similar term. Adams, back in 1880, concluded that 'the first object of thinking citizens, therefore, should be not to keep one or another political party in power, but to insist on order and submission to law.' Meaning that the elites should be permitted to function in what's called "technocratic isolation," by the World Bank -- I'm being a little anachronistic here, that's modern lingo -- or, as the London Economist puts the idea today, 'policy should be insulated from politics.' That's the case in free Poland, they assure their readers, so they don't have to be concerned about the fact that people are calling for something quite different in free elections. They can do what they like in the elections, but since policy is insulated from politics and technocratic insulation proceeds, it really doesn't matter. That's democracy.

    A decade earlier, in 1870, Adams had warned -- they were worried then about universal suffrage, people were fighting for the right to vote -- he warned that universal suffrage would 'bring the government of ignorance and vice, with power in the hands of the European and especially Celtic proletariat on the Atlantic coast,' those horrible Irish people, 'an African proletariat on the shores of the Gulf and a Chinese proletariat on the Pacific.' Adams didn't foresee the sophisticated techniques that would be developed in the twentieth century to ensure that policy remains insulated from politics as the franchise was extended through popular struggle and to guarantee that the general public would remain marginalised and disaffected, subdued by the new spirit of the age and coming to see themselves not as free people who have a right to dignity and independence but as atoms of consumption who sell themselves on the labour market, at least when they're lucky.

    Adams was in fact expressing an old idea. Eighty years earlier Alexander Hamilton had put it clearly. He said there was the idea that your people are a great beast and that the real disease is democracy. That's Hamilton. These ideas have become ever more entrenched in educated circles, as Jefferson's fears and Bakunin's predictions were increasingly realised. The basic attitudes coming into this century were expressed very clearly by Woodrow Wilson's Secretary of State, Robert Lansing, attitudes that led to Wilson's Red Scare, as it was called, which destroyed labour and independent thought for a decade." (2)
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    The Caribbean is a hotbed of intrigue and false histories, It has been this way in my opinion since about 11,000 years ago when people from all over the world were there. But you might like to read some more recent stuff about the Mosquito Nations or Nation in order to try to ascertain who Lafitte and Morgan allied themselves with - and why.

    http://4dw.net/royalark/mosquito.php

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