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  1. #11
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    Hurray! A point of light shines in the dark reaches of Canadian management of history. There is an actual person who works for this museum that doesn't support Clovis. But in reality it is just that they only change their minds when forced to by the work of 'outsiders' like Farley Mowat and Westviking did on the Norse and Lans-aux-Meadows site. Maybe in another century if we are still around, we'll start discussing Fell and Churchward.

    Guidon has pushed the dates back a lot further than 50,000 and even more than 60,000 at her site as we see in this report from Athena Review.

    “A total of seven charcoal samples from hearths at site BPF 1 were subjected to the full ABOX-SC procedure and their radiocarbon contents were determined by accelerator mass spectrometry at the Australian University. Five of the samples proved to be even beyond the limit of this new technique, returning ages of greater than 56,000 BP. Finite ages of 53,000 and 55,000 BP were obtained for the remaining two (Santos et al., in manuscript).

    These new results push back the time of human occupation at the Pedra Furada site by at least another 8,000 years relative to the previous results. Hence, it appears that humans were already at this site about 60,000 years ago, and possibly even earlier.” (10)

    I wrote about these things long before the NYTimes did the article after the next link.

    When Louis Leakey was the top academic in the field he found the same age as Hueyatlaco for arrowheads near the shore of the once Salton Sea near Barstow where people I talked with have created a study center I hear.

    "Exposing the tension over competing claims about where and when humans first arrived in the Americas, some scholars in the dwindling Clovis-first camp in the United States quickly rejected the findings.

    Gary Haynes, an archaeologist at the University of Nevada, Reno, argued that the stones found here were not tools made by humans, but instead could have become chipped and broken naturally, by rockfall. Stuart Fiedel, an archaeologist with the Louis Berger Group, an environmental consulting company, said that monkeys might have made the tools instead of humans.

    “Monkeys, including large extinct forms, have been in South America for 35 million years,” Dr. Fiedel said. He added that the Clovis model was recently bolstered by new DNA analysis ancestrally connecting indigenous peoples in Central and South America to a boy from the Clovis culture whose 12,700-year-old remains were found in 1968 at a site in Montana.

    Such dismissive positions have invited equally sharp responses from scholars like Dr. Dillehay, the American archaeologist who discovered Monte Verde. “Fiedel does not know what he is talking about,” he said, explaining that similarities existed between the stone tools found here and at the site across South America in Chile. “To say monkeys produced the tools is stupid.”

    Having their findings disputed is nothing new for the archaeologists working at Serra da Capivara. Dr. Guidon, the Brazilian archaeologist who pioneered the excavations, asserted more than two decades ago that her team had found evidence in the form of charcoal from hearth fires that humans had lived here about 48,000 years ago.

    While scholars in the United States generally viewed Dr. Guidon’s work with skepticism, she pressed on, obtaining the permission of Brazilian authorities to preserve the archaeological sites near the town of Săo Raimundo Nonato in a national park that now gets thousands of visitors a year despite its remote location in Piauí, one of Brazil’s poorest states.

    Dr. Guidon remains defiant about her findings. At her home on the grounds of a museum she founded to focus on the discoveries in Serra da Capivara, she said she believed that humans had reached these plateaus even earlier, around 100,000 years ago, and might have come not overland from Asia but by boat from Africa.

    Professor Boëda, who succeeded Dr. Guidon in leading the excavations, said that such early dates may have been possible but that more research was needed. His team is using thermoluminescence, a technique that measures the exposure of sediments to sunlight, to determine their age.

    Some scholars have shown that Christianity and the other Ur story or Sumerian religions came about through an ancient mushroom cult. The shamans of a million years ago knew the religious or spiritual benefits of many hallucinogens. Crystals, herbs, sex, food, music and massages of all type and ethnic names could be discussed. Every one of our senses has corollaries in the less easily observed soulful or ethereal realm. Deepak Chopra documents how massage activates natural hormonal production to create feelings of euphoria and well-being in matters with medical potential. Surely this scientific data is not necessary for any person who has actually lived or experienced life.

    Reading every word of the next article is a MUST! https://goddessdocumentary.wordpress...rija-gimbutas/
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    'Kenyanthropus platyops':

    - Perhaps the 6,000,000 year old men found by a maverick who went behind the authorities back at the Olduvai Gorge will be proven to actually not be outside the australopithecine lineage. But the Leakey family has found a 3.5 million year old human that definitely is, and it was announced after I had written the things related hereto earlier in this effort. I love how these synchronicities occur and how much there is for us to know about ourselves.

    "The 'Gang' Hits Again

    Those famed Leakey fossil hunters add a new limb to our family tree - by Simon Robinson, Nairobi.

    Like other members of the famous 'hominid gang', the sharp-eyed fossil hunters employed by paleontology's Leakey family, Justus Erus spends three months a year scouring the dry, bone-rich riverbeds around Lake Turkana, in northern Kenya. It is a scrubby, desolate landscape, where the people are desparately poor and gun-toting young men are a menacing presence. But it is hallowed ground to scientists because of the clues it offers to early human history. Still, even after five years, Erus, a 30-year-old Turkana tribesman, had scored nary a hit-just bits of animal bones and teeth.

    Then one scorching morning during the final week of the gang's explorations in August 1999, at a site called Lomekwi, Erus noticed a white object, just a cm or two across, sticking out of a patch of brown mudstone. 'I thought maybe it was (the bones of) a monkey,' he says. Beckoning the expedition's co-leader, Meave Leakey, wife and daughter-in-law, respectively, of Richard and Louis Leakey and renowned in her own right, he asked her opinion. By nightfall they realized that they had uncovered the partial remains of a humanlike skull.

    The fossil turned out to be a totally new prehuman species and last week reignited one of paleontology's greatest debates: Did we evolve in direct steps from a common apelike ancestor between 6 million and 4 million years ago? Or did the human family tree sprout branches, some of which petered out? {No integration of Mungo Man, the 6,000,000 year old find, the Black Skull or many other possibilities!}

    In the past 20 years the Leakeys and others have dug up overwhelming evidence showing that between 2.5 million and 1 million years ago, the then lush woodlands and savannas of eastern Africa-where our family tree first took root-were the habitat of rival species, most of which were evolutionary dead ends. But what about before that? Paleontologists have generally agreed that there was just one hominid line, beginning with a small, upright-walking species known as 'Australopithecus afarensis', most famously represented by 'Lucy'., a remarkably complete (about 40%) skeleton found in Ethiopia in 1974.

    Now {Ha!} that view is being challenged. The new skull, described by Leakey and six colleagues, including her and Richard's daughter Louise, 29, in 'Nature' last week, pushes the presence of co-existing species back another million years, to between 3.5 million and 3.2 million years ago. That's right in Lucy's time. Yet it is so different from Lucy that they assign their fossil, which they call 'Kenyanthropus platyops', or 'flat- faced man of Kenya', to a new genus, or grouping of species. 'This means we will have to rethink the early past of hominid evolution,' says Meave Leakey, head of paleontology at the National Museum of Kenya. {Who didn't want the Dalhousie professor digging up the 6,000,000 year old bones on the Yale site, that he says aren't australopithecine, to upstage them.} 'It's clear the picture isn't as simple as we thought.' Even Lucy's discoverer Donald Johanson, director of the Institute of Human Origins at Arizona State University, concurs. 'This is a reminder that there are probably a lot more species out there,' he says.

    K. 'platyops' not only had a much flatter face than Lucy, she also had smaller teeth. From the teeth, the scientists conclude that it probably ate fruits, berries and small insects while A. 'afarensis' consumed tougher vegetation like roots and grasses. {The skull appears to have teeth as we do. This description of things bears little fruit of the nature of our ancestors or how they felt, thought and developed the things that really count. It would fit very nicely with the 'cave man' fiction and our 'gradually evolved' species though. Thus you can rest secure in the knowledge that YOU and especially the European (you) are the highest form of life ever found on the face of this planet.} 'They were unlikely to compete,' says team member Fred Spoor of University College London. 'Two species don't usually occupy the same ecological niche.'

    Old flat-face could displace A. 'afarensis' as a direct link in the human lineage. Or it may be a part of a branch leading to 'Homo rudolfensis', a species with a strikingly similar face that lived in East Africa between 2.4 and 1.8 million years ago. 'You find something beautiful and new, but the conclusion is you actually know less,' says Spoor. 'But we are getting there.' - with reporting by Andrea Dorfman/New York." (1)

    When all things are considered they are being disingenuous, and of course since this report I have been proven correct by at least five more finds and a re-analysis of Homo Habilis's cranial capacity. Spoor or the others do know that the afarensis lineage is not related to us. As to the existence of super robustus australopithecines in the time, they don't mention that because the probability of 'occupying the same ecological niche' increases the likelihood that humans and hominids banded together and formed protection groups against these larger foe with ability like their own. That is a possibility I think leads to social and cultural development that would push the meaningful aspects of human life back a great deal further. The spiritual and communicational possibilities of commerce and ritual as well as dance and herbalism, expand as people form larger units. It is likely that sexual relations between different hominids occurred and made mutational potentials to generate genetic streams of over a hundred different types in Africa. To focus on Africa forgets Siberia (Diring entry) and Mungo Man. It loses sight of Gondwanaland where the genetic material that became all these hominids formed before the split to South America, Australia etc. This leads to many different places on earth developing hominids. Yes, there is much to learn; but if we don't consider all the facts we will keep our heads in a very dark place that doctors might have to use surgical tools like obsidian (as fine as any today) to remove. They have recently found an ape which the researchers think is a cross between a gorilla and a chimpanzee. It is still living in some numbers and I look forward to geneticists telling us what cannot be done while their colleagues say otherwise - some more. And those geneticists did so after I wrote much of this book. They found up to 1.8 million years ago that pubic lice which are only on humans diverged in North America.

    So we have academics who quote the best of the era before them and who stick within disciplines that do not study the other disciplines enough to even keep remotely close to updated. Then we have a lack of integration due to over-emphasis on minutiae in their chosen discipline which these people then have to earn a living at - teaching other fools who do not question or think - while attacking those who do - like Gimbutas, Hawkes, Steen-McIntyre, Meggars, Nuttall (just to name the women).

    But they all stick to the story line that they are at the zenith of human development or some racist Scale of Nature.

    Meanwhile people are fed up and getting more insight from ancient wisdom acquisition disciplines and healing methods like Yoga and acupuncture. The only new philosophy is a new word describing an old approach and recycling these approaches in psychology from one fad back to another. Thank dog for the atom-mysticists like Faraday (who was weak on Math but good on observing) and Sir William Crookes.

    Worse than these things is the outright destruction of artifacts deemed not in line with the paradigm theories. It did not start with St. Patrick who may have been responsible for 1200 hand drawn books being destroyed - he is generally acknowledged to have personally dealt with 150 Irish books by himself. He doctored the most important book of all. I think it is the book Strabo said he knew the Celtiberians had a 7,000 year written history of their people in. That would of course mean these people had a writing language 6000 years before his 'advanced' Greek culture we have been forced to learn about as they Hellenized and appropriated former civilized people who had colonized them. Then later you get churchians writing as if the Senchus Mor is an extant book of laws of the Irish when it is in fact doctored Roman propaganda rather than the 25,000 year history of the Keltoi or 'ancient ones'. Yep, and if you read Wikipedia you would believe the Roman Empire liars.
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    ICE AGES: -

    The impact of the ice ages and inter-glacial effects on the rise and fall of ocean levels and the earth readjustments to the departure of the ice cap cannot be over-looked in the human historical picture. Research in the area is far greater than in the recent past and we can learn what might have happened to earlier civilizations on earth. Atlantis is a given name for a civilization that inhabited many islands and coastal regions, in my mind. The idea of one central location makes little sense when one considers such things as Ice Ages and changes in the flow of the Gulf Stream and climate that resulted. Because it lasted for from 30,000 to 100,000 years and may have co-existed with other civilizations rising and falling it is most inauspicious to debate one specific time when it was in Tara or Crete or the Azores or Bimini or even Finias. That seems to be the usual debate among the over 25,000 books written about just this one lost civilization. As long as people don't integrate all facts they inevitably just come up with theories to fit pet or prevailing concepts. In Gateway to Atlantis, 'The Search for the source of a lost Civilization' we see a far better scholar who is doing the right kind of investigation. Mapping of the ocean bottoms and geological understandings as well as studying glacial deposits and tree rings gives a better picture of history than history books.

    "In 1960 a scientific paper by Wallace S. Broecker and his colleagues Maurice Ewing and Bruce C. Heezen, of Lamont Geological Observatory at Columbia University, Palisades, New York, appeared in the 'American Journal of Science'. Entitled 'Evidence for an Abrupt Change in Climate close to 11,000 years ago', it advanced the theory that a 'number of geographically isolated systems suggested that the warming of world-wide climate which occurred at the close of Wisconsin glacial times was extremely abrupt. (3)

    By examining sediment cores taken from various deep-sea locations, Broecker and his team were able to demonstrate that around c. 9000 BC. the surface water temperature of the Atlantic Ocean increased by between six and ten degrees centigrade, (4) enough to alter its entire ecosystem. More significantly, it was found that the bottom waters of the Cariaco Trench in the Caribbean Sea, off Venezuela, suddenly stagnated, {The Gulf Stream being sent back south from hitting the land around the Azores when the water level was lower suddenly started warming the Iceland and British Isles regions, again.} showing that an abrupt change in water circulation had taken place coincident to the warming of the oceans. (5) Additionally, the silt deposits washing into the Gulf of Mexico from the Mississippi Valley abruptly halted and were retained in the delta and valleys, as the waters from the glacier-bound Great Lakes switched direction and began draining through the previously frozen northern outlets. (6) With extreme rapidity, the water levels of these lakes shrank from maximum volume, down to the much lower level they occupy today. (7)

    Among the data drawn on by Broecker and his team to make their findings was the work conducted in 1957 by Cesare Emiliani of the Department of Geology at the University of Miami. He found that deep-sea cores displayed clear evidence of an abrupt temperature turn around in 9000 BC. was responsible for the other changes set out by Broecker et al. (8) However, since other cores examined by Emiliani had not shown the same rapid transition, he decided that the anomalous cores lacked vital sediment layers covering a period of several thousand years of ecological history, and so dismissed them as unreliable. (9) Yet Broecker and his colleagues disputed Emiliani's interpretation of the results. They could find no reason to suppose that key sediment layers could have been lost in the manner suggested. As a consequence, they reinstated Emiliani's controversial findings as crucial evidence of a major shift in oceanic temperatures around 11,000 years ago. (10)

    Although Broecker et al seemed keen to promote a date of c. 9000 BC for the rapid transition from glacial to post-glacial ages, there are indications that this event did not occur until a slightly later period. At least three lake sites in the Great Basin region revealed carbon-14 dates around 8000 BC for a maximum water level shortly 'before' they experienced a sudden desiccation after the withdrawal of the ice sheets. (11) In addition to this, marine shells from the St. Lawrence Valley, which provided evidence of an invasion of seawater coincident to a rapid ice retreat, frequently produced dates 'post' 9000 BC. (12)

    Broecker and his colleagues accepted the presence of these much lower dates and suggested that the whole matter was complicated by the fact that there had been an estimated 200-year resurgence of glacial conditions, known as the Valders re-advance, around the mid-ninth millennium BC. They therefore acknowledged that their own findings might in fact relate to the recession of the ice fields after this time, bringing the dates of their suggested 'major fluctuation in climate' and the 'sharp change in oceanic conditions' down to well below c. 9000 BC. (13)


    Further evidence that dramatic changes accompanied the transition from glacial to post-glacial ages came from the work of Herbert E. Wright Jnr, of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, (14) and J Gordon Ogden III of the Department of Botany and Bacteriology at the Ohio Wesleyan University, Delaware. (15) Both examined the pollen spectra range from sediment cores taken from various lake sites in the Great Lakes area and found they provided clear evidence of an abrupt shift in flora at the end of glaciation. The spruce forests that had thrived in the cold harsh climate for many thousands of years were supplanted swiftly, first by pine and then by mixed hardwood forests, such as birch and oak. Deciduous trees, as we know, only thrive in a warmer climate.

    The significance of these findings is the acceleration at which this transition took place. In an article for the journal 'Quaternary Paleoecology' in 1967, Ogden pointed out that some pollen spectra samples showed a 50 per cent replacement from spruce to pine occurring in just 10 centimetres of sediment. (16) In one sample taken from a site named Glacial Lake Aitken in Minnesota, the transition from 55 per cent to 18 per cent spruce pollen occurred in only 7.6 centimetres of sediment, re- presenting a deposition corresponding to just 170 years. (17) The problem here is that conventional geologists and paleoecologists consider that the transition from glacial to post-glacial ages occurred over several 'thousand' years, not just a few hundred {The time it takes for one or two trees to live and die.} years.

    These findings so baffled Ogden that he was led to comment: 'The only mechanism sufficient to produce a change of the kind described here would therefore appear to be a rapid and dramatic change in temperature and/or precipitation approximately 10,000 years ago.' (18)

    What kind of climatic 'event' might have been responsible for this 'rapid and dramatic change in temperature' {Could this relate to the buttercups found frozen and undigested in Mammoth mouths of the Arctic?} in the American Midwest, sometime around c. 8000 BC? Had it been a consequence of the proposed cometary impact that devastated the western hemisphere during this same epoch?

    The knowledge that some 65 million years ago the Cretaceous period had been abruptly brought to a close by just such an impact has softened the most stubborn of minds concerning such a possibility. Broecker himself, in an article written for 'Scientific American' in 1983, now accepted that asteroid or comet impacts might be responsible for the instigation and termination of glacial ages. (19)

    This is indeed what Emilio Spedicato has suggested as the mechanism behind the revolution in climate and ocean temperature experienced during this period..." (20)

    We will return to implications related to this and the work of Mr. Collins throughout this encyclopedia as we develop real history from actual facts rather than the Bible Narrative (with all the alien garbage). It should be evident that these climate changes had significant impacts on society and created a loss of culture and technology in certain areas of the world. There were probably people who took advantage of these spiritual and other perceptions that resulted as well.
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    David Pratt tells us people came to the Americas millions of years ago - and I can support a couple of those millions.

    Herein lies a lot of truth, be careful if you still fear the churchians who scared you with Dragons at the edge of the Earth or teachers who taught you people believed in a Flat Earth even while travelling the oceans.

    "In 1512 Pope Julius II tried to explain why the Christian Bible failed to mention the American Indians and their continent. He declared that although the Indians were descendants of Adam and Eve, and therefore human, their ancestors were Babylonians who had been expelled from the Old World on account of their sins. God had apparently lost sight of them, and somehow they had managed to survive the flood.

    The theory of the peopling of the Americas that became scientific orthodoxy in the mid-20th century is no less fabulous: the Americas were empty of humans until about 14,000 years ago when migrants from Northeast Asia trekked over the Bering land bridge, and with the exception of a brief visit by the Vikings in the 11th century, the first person to subsequently discover the Americas was Christopher Columbus in 1492.

    More recently, the possibility of migrations up to several tens of thousands of years earlier than 14,000 BP has been accepted by many scientists. There is evidence, however, that North, Central, and South America were settled by migrants from different parts of the world over the course of millions of years, and that even in the past 5000 years explorers and traders from various continents visited the Americas before Columbus."

    Bucky Fuller knew what it took to develop geometry and trigonometry through ocean travel by the stars. He would agree with me that Flores Island artifacts of 825,000 years ago prove advanced man was there a million years ago and that it took time for that human to get there, away from his culture or civilization. I don't think he would simply state it was homo habilis and a less evolved human given the Black Skull and many other finds that make any evolutionary tree impossible to affirm according to the discoverer of Lucy. I know Bucky would love conversing with one member of the team who found Lucy in the Olduvai Gorge area - I refer to Hank Wesselman. Hank has become a major scientific proof of shamanic mind development.

    The extent of ignorance and the continued acceptance of myths created before Nazism but which served the Nazis well is amazing. The next link is one of the best encapsulations of the current nonsense you might even get to see on TV. The Rosicrucians did not become the Illuminati who have been large and in charge since the time of Tuthmosis if not before. But I could tear the whole thing to shreds and there are a hundred threads I have already put here which do just that. I do admit these myths have a lot better history than I was taught in school. The matter of genetic interbreeding included in this link as well as the dimensional aspects of Tesla's work is a theory I support.

    In the Wiki article on Platonic solids they say there have been earlier examples in places like Scotland, which have been found. It is good to see them say they have no idea when such things were understood. Then they go into trying to say who described them in written records first. It is important to remember that the totality of astrological knowledge is related and so is the Earth Energy Grid. Also keep in mind that astrolabes such as the Antikythera were used to locate valuable metals. Wiki then says these words -The fifth Platonic solid, the dodecahedron, Plato obscurely remarks,
    "...the god used for arranging the constellations on the whole heaven". Aristotle added a fifth element, aithęr (aether in Latin, "ether" in English) and postulated that the heavens were made of this element, but he had no interest in matching it with Plato's fifth solid.[3]
    So obscure was Plato that he kept his life and Aristotle spoke nothing of it either. Thus they avoided the summary execution they would have suffered if they spilled the beans about the Pentagon-Dodecahedron.

    There are many codes, I have no doubt
    The meaning certain to freak you out
    But all the visions of anti-Christ
    Are projections there, you pay a price

    I cannot say every system is of no concern but I have not seen numbers cause any specific action to occur. Yes, the four powers primary and secondary are in mandalas, and along with an invisible force binding all (Kether in the Tree of Life) they offer a lot of learning. The forces do flow along lines and can be directed through intent imbedded in systems and mandalas etc. I do know symbols affect our mind and soul, and numbers like letters are symbols in the beginning. Neuro-Linguistics is certainly not new and it is used in psychiatry as well as by agencies like the CIA. Memetics has a powerful influence but just how much of it is due to our fears built up over millennia of exposure, such as the Swastika? Does astrology really work, and is it an exacting mathematical science we could learn? I have not learned it that well but I know people who have, and have seen applied knowledge from it, work wonders.

    My friend Dennis Fetcho is a major league specialist in gematria and you can say he invented the Isisian Code he explores at length. I think the ancient Kelts and DNN including Isis and Osiris developed many ways to manifest reality including all alphabets. They became known as Phoenicians which I have amply proven in many threads (Ogham and Aymara included). This 'manifesting of reality' takes time and is like the alchemical tincture, insidious and undetectable after established inside your mind or our collective soul. Here are a few words from The Fetch as Dennis is sometimes called.

    "The Roman numbering system, like much of Greco-Roman culture, has survived and prospered through two millenia. The very survival of the Roman numbering system hints at a larger necessity: the survival of the Roman numbering system is integral to the larger Letter-Number system of the Western Illuminati. Without the mathematical values of the Roman numbering system, a larger, composite philosophy within Western occult constructions could not be assembled into a composite whole.

    Within the Roman numbering systems holds adumbration's of a larger truth. Thus there is a necessity to preserve the Roman numbering system precisely because within the Roman numbering system lay hidden key details to a larger luminous system. This luminous philosophical system lies, further, beyond the reach of any single cultural perception.

    It was the Greek's via Pythagorus, and later, the Romans, who utilized and taught the idea of "letters as numbers". The idea that "letters and numbers are as one, inseparable" remains at the very core of the Illuminatus, or Qaballistic, system. It was the later Hebrews would would morph Pythagorean ideas on meta-numerics into their "Torah" and ideas of "Kabballah".

    Clearly, one of the inital, and primary (Qaballistic) codes based on Letters/Numbers was the Roman (and Greek) numbering system(s).

    The preservation of this core Letter/Number philosophical codes would be necessary and, so, like silent sentinels from the past, Roman numbering may to this day be found gracing the facades of architecture, books, coins, as well as being prominently displayed in the modern era in the Arts in the form of "film"."

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    Is the grip on human origins which sometimes seems all about Africa or Out of Africa going to continue; or will we see some authors making sense and describing how pre-white people from Africa developed advanced culture and had great wisdom rather than mere ape-like creatures stumbling here and there. I don't have a problem with Africa being the origin of humans and can even accept we are all descended from one strain of early man. But I do see other possibilities worth discussion. This is especially true in reference to China where I see 2 million year ago humans and a mouse like creature which is a first mammal going back into the time of the dinosaurs. The next link is a book detailing some of the problems China research has had as well as hopes for real scientific analysis of a more stable hominid and culture than it appears other parts of the world have grown from. Part of this is probably due to climates in the south not having been covered by ice every few thousand years. I hope I am alive to see the day we have DNA from Denisovan Man connected to Polynesians through the Ainu, and the culture of these Ainu and their interbreeding with Neanderthal which is now becoming accepted as entirely possible. Yes, it will be nice to see linguists like Churchward being proven correct again but also to find the legends of the DNN there too.

    I suppose you can put me in the multi-regional camp of the Out of Africa theory but I also think the geological split of Gondwanaland about 25 million years ago to South America and India carried the same genetic materials which became humans in Africa.

    "In paleoanthropology, the recent African origin of modern humans, or the "out of Africa" theory (OOA), is the most widely accepted model of the geographic origin and early migration of anatomically modern humans. The theory is called the "out-of-Africa" theory in the popular press, and the "recent single-origin hypothesis" (RSOH), "replacement hypothesis", or "recent African origin model" (RAO) by experts in the field. The concept was speculative before it was corroborated in the 1980s by a study of present-day mitochondrial DNA, combined with evidence based on physical anthropology of archaic specimens.

    Genetic studies and fossil evidence show that archaic Homo sapiens evolved to anatomically modern humans solely in Africa between 200,000 and 60,000 years ago,[1] that members of one branch of Homo sapiens left Africa at some point between 125,000 and 60,000 years ago, and that over time these humans replaced more primitive populations of the genus Homo such as Neanderthals and Homo erectus.[2] The date of the earliest successful "out of Africa" migration (earliest migrants with living descendants) has generally been placed at 60,000 years ago based on genetics, but migration out of the continent may have taken place as early as 125,000 years ago according to Arabian archaeological finds of tools in the region.[3]

    The recent single origin of modern humans in East Africa is the predominant position held within the scientific community.[4][5][6][7][8] There are differing theories on whether there was a single exodus or several. A growing number of researchers also suspect that "long-neglected North Africa" was the original home of the modern humans who first trekked out of the continent.[9][10][11]

    The major competing hypothesis is the multiregional origin of modern humans, which envisions a wave of Homo sapiens migrating earlier from Africa and interbreeding with local Homo erectus populations in multiple regions of the globe. Most multiregionalists still view Africa as a major wellspring of human genetic diversity, but allow a much greater role for hybridization.[12][13]

    Genetic testing in the last decade has revealed that several now extinct archaic human species may have interbred with modern humans. These species have been claimed to have left their genetic imprint in different regions across the world: Neanderthals in all humans except Sub-Saharan Africans, Denisova hominin in Australasia (for example, Melanesians, Aboriginal Australians and some Negritos) and there could also have been interbreeding between Sub-Saharan Africans and an as-yet-unknown hominin (possibly remnants of the ancient species Homo heidelbergensis). However, the rate of interbreeding was found to be relatively low (1–10%) and other studies have suggested that the presence of Neanderthal or other archaic human genetic markers in modern humans can be attributed to shared ancestral traits originating from a common ancestor 500,000 to 800,000 years ago."
    And now we have 2.4 million year old human artifacts in a south China cave as well as many more proofs to make it more exciting for little old me.

    Now you may think genetic info transfer such as the schools set up by St. Germain in Vienna which I have written about in some of my books (Including those on Hitler) is pure poppycock. I know there is this kind of thing in my life.

    Here is research which explains it genetically, but you have to combine what I said above - they are just starting to find out these things (like the lymph system to brain and psychic points as well as chakra stuff I have reported). I am not kidding - I know more about this stuff than the people spending billions of bucks on it.

    "The research published in the open access journal Genome Biology focuses on the use of horizontal gene transfer, the transfer of genes between organisms living in the same environment.

    'This is the first study to show how widely horizontal gene transfer (HGT) occurs in animals, including humans, giving rise to tens or hundreds of active 'foreign' genes,' said lead author Alastair Crisp from the University of Cambridge.

    'Surprisingly, far from being a rare occurrence, it appears that HGT has contributed to the evolution of many, perhaps all, animals and that the process is ongoing, meaning that we may need to re-evaluate how we think about evolution.'


    Imagine the use of gene transfer technology when we know how to enhance the soul or brain uses!
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    In order to learn there needs to be an open mind which can observe. In order for Wikipedia and normative academics to start learning they must stop me-too think.

    I shall put something here on human studies from Wikipedia and make brief and similar comments.

    "This timeline of human prehistory comprises the time from the first appearance of Homo sapiens in Africa 200,000 years ago to the invention of writing (At least 25,000 years ago - see Marshack under Pre-Neolithic Calendars - Strabo said Celtiberians had 7,500 years of written history before his time - thus 10,000) and the beginning of history approximately 5,500 years ago. It covers the time from the Middle Paleolithic (Old Stone Age) to the very beginnings of the Bronze Age (Check out Dolni Vestonici here - 29,000 years of smelting). The divisions used are those delineating the European Stone Age; however, many regions around the world underwent various stages of Stone Age development at different times. All dates are approximate and based on research in the fields of anthropology, archaeology, genetics, geology, and linguistics. They are all subject to revision based on new discoveries (only if they were to actually integrate and study with an open mind) or analyses.

    200,000 years ago: appearance of homo sapiens in Africa[1] (And this ego-centric thinking does not give Neanderthal their due - we are related to them and they originate 850,000 years ago)
    200,000 - 180,000 years ago: time of mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam[2] (ARRRGGGHHH!)
    195,000 years ago: oldest homo sapiens fossil - from Omo, Ethiopia[3]
    170,000 years ago: humans first start wearing clothes.[4] (I highly doubt that. Cold climates of Siberia and mountains including the Ainu - see Thread - suggest otherwise)
    125,000 years ago: peak of the Eemian Stage interglacial
    120,000 - 90,000 years ago: Abbassia Pluvial in north Africa - the Sahara desert region is wet and fertile. (It was still a savannah less than 20,000 years ago)
    82,000 years ago: small perforated seashell beads from Taforalt in Morocco are the earliest evidence of personal adornment found anywhere in the world.[5] (What was the Berekhat Ram figurine from 350,000 years ago?)
    c. 75,000 years ago: Toba Volcano supereruption.[6]
    70,000 years ago: earliest example of abstract art or symbolic art from Blombos cave, South Africa - stones engraved with grid or cross-hatch patterns.[7] (Recent discovery of 500,000+ year old art in Indonesia)"

    It was the mid-nineties when I first heard about refined tools found in Africa and dated to 80,000 years ago. This was a quantum leap and fits into my history of far more advanced ancient cultures on earth because Europe of 16,000 years ago was the oldest for such a refined tool previous to this find. Of course the evidence for my history has continued fast and furious. While the academics who will still be found clinging to their ego and denying they were brainwashed supporters of racist agendas and EMPIRE, are found in fewer places. I say tools started with wooden sticks and spears in the hands of apes, who still do it today in the wild.

    "One of the features that distinguishes humans and their hominid ancestors from the rest of the animal kingdom is their possession of complex culture, which includes the ability to communicate with spoken language, create art and make tools. The oldest stone tools dated so far are nearly 2.6-million years old and come from Ethiopia.

    Our ancestors only began to make more refined tools from bone much more recently, probably only within the last 100,000 years. Bone tools dated to about 80,000 years ago have been found in Blombos Cave, on the southern Cape coast of South Africa.

    Some scientists have argued that hominids such as Paranthropus robustus were making bone tools in the Cradle of Humankind far longer ago – perhaps more than 1-million years ago – though this is controversial.

    There are two main types of stone tool – those based on flakes chopped off cores of rock, and those made on cores themselves.

    The stone flakes, or flake tools, that were struck off the cores, were more usually the desired end-product and were used for cutting and skinning animals or to work plant materials.

    Stone cores result from striking flakes of stone off a rock. They are commonly no more than by-products of stone tool making. But some cores could have been used to break open bones for their protein-rich marrow and to chop up tough vegetation for eating. Rocks that weren’t fashioned into stone tools could also have been by hominids for pounding or crushing seeds and for throwing, for example.

    Sterkfontein has produced the oldest stone tools in Southern Africa – cores and flakes of the Oldowan industry dating to nearly 2-million years ago."

    Will the fact that academics and teachers never actually debate me or address the facts I present from others, change some day? Will they illustrate something more than ignorance and ad hominems? Will alien theorists mouthing Biblical nonsense start to band together and admit they were duped?

    “Chapter 7 Atlantis and the Earth grid

    The vibrating aether energy that shapes the atom moment by moment also shapes the planets, the stars and all the rest of the universe in the very same way. The Platonic energy fields at the quantum level should therefore also be found at the macroscopic scale of our own planet Earth. The scale of the wavelengths may be different but the ratio of the interfering aether wavelengths are the same, the ratio is inherently fixed by the geometry of the Platonic solids. Another way of saying the same thing is that atoms, planets and stars are interconnected by the fractal patterns of the Platonic solids. We will demonstrate in this chapter that the Platonic solids also create an energy matrix around the Earth that scientists now call the ‘Earth grid’.

    The Earth grid

    A number of scientists have been working on the Earth grid model, but the first one was Ivan P. Sanderson. Sanderson found that the twelve ‘Devil’s Graveyards’ around the world were geometrically spaced from one another. The ‘Devil’s Graveyards’ are the triangular areas in the world where physical anomalies have been reported such as the mysterious disappearances of ships and airplanes for no apparent reason. The most famous of them is the Bermuda triangle; second best known is Devil’s Sea east of Japan. There have been many reports of time and space dilations that were accompanied by loss of compass, altimeters, artificial horizon, loss of radio contact and other strange phenomena that many airplane pilots experienced while flying over the Bermuda triangle. There have been reports of planes that after arrival seemed to have travelled through a different time zone since all watches on board were late by exactly the same time! Sanderson noticed that there are five ‘Devil’s Graveyards’ in the Northern Hemisphere, five in the Southern Hemisphere and two at the poles, twelve in total forming the exact vertices of the icosahedron!

    Three Russian scientists, Nikolai Goncharov, Vyacheslav Morozov, and Valery Makarov made the next step in the construction of the Earth grid. They started with Sanderson’s work and added the dodecahedron to the grid pattern.

    Bruce Cathie discovered independently the octahedron and cube in the subtle energy fields of the Earth and this was later given the name the Cathie grid.

    Husband and wife scientists William Becker and Bethe Hagens finally put the complete Earth grid symmetry together. Becker is a Professor of Industrial Design at the University of Illinois, Chicago, and Bethe Hagens is a Professor of Anthropology at Governors State University of Illinois. Starting from the icosa-dodecahedron grid they added a special polyhedron developed by sacred geometry explorer R. Buckminster Fuller. The official term of their final Earth grid is the Unified Vector Geometry 120 Polyhedron, or the UVG 120 also called the ‘Earth Star’.”
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    This excellent book from 1914 is (of course) talking about early man being 100,000 years old and we have beaten this kind of stupidity back a very long way. But in some circles we still find people thinking art began in the Lascaux caves of just 30,000 years ago, the author addresses. I was so happy to see art found in Indonesia dated over 500,000 years ago in 2014. It is a well-written authoritative book written by one of the very best in academia with input from all the best experts.

    As you read it try to think about naturally occurring weapons like shark's teeth (megalodon was still around perhaps) sabre-tooth tiger teeth, Rhino horns and straight elephant tusks, straightened mammoth tusks (Used for building near Moscow in digs dated to this era.) and petrified dinosaur teeth. The obsidian rock could make a knife that modern surgeons would be happy to use and at Catal Hayuk Jacquetta Hawkes (Atlas of Archaeology) said the people were precociously modern. But that was just 10,000 years ago and it might be a stretch when I say that the same kind of culture might have existed near Dolni Vestonici 29,000 years ago. I take a little from it in reference to Java Man and Neanderthal. In the era this book was written human origins were dated around 500,000 years at the very oldest and Java Man was not given as old a date as that. Many still said it was not human in the early 1950s but in the early 1970s we knew it was about a million years old and part of what we then named as Homo Erectus. I think we will find 12 million year old humans some day soon.

    "This accords with the estimate of the brain capacity[P] of 855 (Dubois) as compared with 1,230, the smallest brain capacity found in a member of the Neanderthal race. Second, as seen from above, we are struck with the great length of the calvarium as compared with its breadth, the cephalic index or ratio of breadth to length being 73.4 per cent (Schwalbe) as compared with 73.9 per cent in the Neanderthal type skull; this dolichocephaly accords with the fact that all of the earliest human races thus far found are long-headed, although according to Schwalbe(22) all anthropoids are broad-headed. This is a very important distinction. The third feature is the prominence and width of the bony eyebrow ridges above the orbits, which are almost as great as in the chimpanzee and greatly exceed those[Pg 79] of the Neanderthal race and of the modern Australian. The profile of the Trinil head restored by McGregor (Fig. 38) exhibits this prominent bony ridge and the low, retreating forehead. In the latest opinion of Schwalbe(23) Pithecanthropus may be regarded as one of the direct ancestors of Neanderthal man and even of the highest human species, Homo sapiens. He also considers that when the lower jaw of the Trinil race becomes known, it will be found to be very similar to that of the Heidelberg man, the final conclusion being that Pithecanthropus and the nearly allied Heidelberg man may be regarded as the common ancestors of the Neanderthal race, on the one hand, and of the higher races on the other. There are, however, reasons for excluding Pithecanthropus from the direct ancestral line of the higher races of man."

    If Christians actually followed what Yeshua, Thomas and James taught they would be following the Merovingian secret knowledge. Made secret mostly due to the effort it takes to actually learn. That is not to say that Sol (sun) o - Mon (Moon) and his forbears did not occasionally take advantage of their knowledge of Astrology, alchemy, the Pentagon Dodecahedron, origins of alphabets and many more things. The sun and moon are extremely important parts of Heliopolitan knowledge systems going so far back in time that I can honestly say Atlantis came hundreds of thousands of years after it was learned.

    The three main pyramids were not built by the people we are told built them as Mr. Temple says. Those pharaohs (If they were such a thing) usurped the pyramids to aggrandize themselves as almost every pharaohs (grave robber) did after them. The Great Pyramid of Iesa had not a miniscule molecule of human remains according to the American Research Center in Egypt who sent as much interior dust and such as they could find to Zurich to be tested in a Mass accelerator.

    I quote Temple herewith.

    "This is the ‘mini-king list’ of a succession of pharaohs of the 4th Dynasty found carved on a cliff at Wadi Hammamat in the Eastern Desert of Egypt, between the Nile and the Red Sea. The kings’ names go from right to left in historical sequence, and there are five of them, each in a royal cartouche. The first one, with the little chick, broken at the top, is the name of King Khufu, better known to us as King Cheops (the Greek version of his name). Next, to the left of him, is the name of King Radjedef, who is these days generally known as Djedefre. He was the first known pharaoh to incorporate the name of the sun god, Ra or Re, in his name. It is symbolised by the solar disc at the top, and the succeeding pharaohs to the left of him all used it as well. To the left of him is King Raqaf, these days generally known amongst Egyptologists as Khafre, and to the ordinary person as Chephren (the Greek version of his name). Egyptologists disagree amongst themselves as to whether the ‘Ra’ or ‘Re’ should really pronounced at the beginning of the name, as it is written, or whether it was only written there out of respect, and should really be pronounced at the end. The next king to the left is King Ra-Hordjedef, and the last on the left is King Ra-Biuf, or Biufre (the Greek version of his name being Bikheris). This important early list of kings was first discovered in 1949 by Fernand Debono. This list emphasises the fact that a little-known pharaoh intervened in the succession between Cheops and Chephren, and that two other pharaohs who are even less well known intervened between Chephren and Mycerinus, who is not even mentioned here. This evidence is awkward for those who advocate the theory that the three main pyramids of Giza were built by three kings in succession as their tombs, namely Cheops, Chephren, and Mycerinus. (from Etienne Drioton, ‘Une Liste de Rois de la IV Dynastie dans l’Ouadi Hammamat’, Bulletin de la Société Français d’Égyptologie, Number 16, October 1954, pp. 41-9.)"
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    This video is humour mostly, but it does tell us a lot about what passes for history.

    Yea, sure. And all that time line is the normal lie which still allows us to ridicule our ancestors and make ourselves feel good about being at the zenith of civilization. It is entirely likely a million years ago we had a Neanderthal culture of brotherhood and ability to communicate through ESP. We certainly had art which is conceptual and social. We had ocean travel and housing (not caves except when hunting - like today's hunters still use).

    In a longer discourse about tool use and brain development a friend reminded me ESP might be a bad word to use and he suggested it was REAL Sensory Perception. I replied with these words.

    I should remember not to call it ESP and I like Real Sensory Perception which we lost as we started writing nonsense rather than sharing wisdom.

    Hybrid grains (not naturally occurring) existed on Crete 5,000 years before this fiction says it started in the Fertile Crescent beginning or Cradle of Civilization. And that agriculture was still not Hybrid. Only thing that hell hole started was religious power mongering. Fermentation and wine or mead was probably well along the path of culture before what ended Atlantis. A myth used to hide the prior cultures that modern classical Empire has used to make itself appear advanced or better than alternatives including extended family or pan tribal brotherhood. But there was a very real end to the worldwide culture that existed before 8350 BCE.

    They have ways to see the lines in a skull to know that the Hobbit was a very advanced human not just an ape. The lines reflect how the brain structure was. The size of the skull of Neanderthal and the slope of the forehead have a lot to do with it. True the brain might have developed speech in lobes different than we have - but I don't think so. I go with the larger brain of the Neanderthal by 10% and no lobes for speech. This makes one ask how much more functional they were at something else. I suggest it wasn't just what we call ESP but maybe spiritual esoteric knowledge and attunement. For example Eustace Mullins can see across a whole valley in the Appalachians Mountains to notice a bird or animal we couldn't see from a mile away. Maybe the Neanderthal could de-materialize or bi-locate, a very useful skill indeed, just ask Pythagoras or St. Germain.

    The DN or Gimbutas' core people of the Don area date back or can be traced back to Dolni (see DN in that) Vestonici where we have 27,000 BPE manufacturing sites with 700 kilns in one area. One of those kilns was a double fired approach capable of turning the ceramic soils to metals - and make swords. At first they were probably just copper tools but eventually we get the legendary Sword of Nuada or Excalibur. Unfortunately the Roman and Empire lies about aliens has infected all lore and history, some people even say the Tuatha de Danann are children of the Annunaki because one of their mythical pantheon is Danu (See D'ainu). But the reverse is true. The An to Bel (BL, Belinus, Ba'al and BBL or Byblos and Bible) system came from the Ainu who fathered or engineered white people in their breeding programs. You can watch the extent of the myth on this video.

    Hold on to your hat! No kidding this could actually knock your hat off. Outside your body (in your aura or part of your solar body) you have five chakras to go with the seven in your body that co-ordinate the inner chhi and nerve energies (Which Eastern thought knew thousands of years before modern neuroscience.). The people who built the stupas and temples knew a thing or two about these energies also. The Irish and Keltic menhirs and megaliths we have said have piezo electric charges also act as antennae as the Pyramid collects solar and earth grid energy. And we have many threads on the cultural to mind-body evolution and at -one -ments where this will apply. It will also apply to the psychotronic generation through the ankh in the Pavlita generator and the caduceus coiled Kundalini serpent on staffs like the medical groups have and which staffs of ancient esoteric adepts had that were enhanced into the Tepaphone. The shem-an-na conical stones also have similar design.

    "The cosmic energies of the heavens above are sometimes channeled into the buildings and megalithic structures of earth using an antenna-like conical structure (i.e. a Spire). On ancient religious architectural buildings like the stupa or pagoda, the mast/yasti/horin is the conical structure that functions as the antenna of the building....

    The bending of the spine of the pagoda is derived from the knowledge that came to the Far East from India and India derived it from the Egyptians/Aryan Scythians/Israelites. The spine of the pagoda and the pagoda itself move in a very serpentine manner, which hints at the presence of the Danites {DN?} among the founders of this style of architectural design....

    Jacob’s ladder is the spine/axis mundi of the Earth and the human bodies of the Israelite and gentile followers of Christ, who yield their vessels to the influence of the spirit of the Most High God, I AM. According to scripture, God does not dwell in temples made by the hands of men but his church is the human bodies of those same Israelites and gentiles who yield their will to his, and Christ is the cornerstone of the temple (Ephesians 2:20). However, for pagan temples and the bodies of those who yield their mind’s to the Anti-Christ, the keystone/cornerstone or spine of their build is the backbone of the god Ptah/Osiris....

    The energies of specific celestial bodies that are channeled into the temple of Osiris/Baal effectively transform the minds and bodies of the individuals exposed to the energy. The shape of the building, in this example, a stupa or gab H1354, magnifies that energy inside of the temple chamber and quickens the process of “enlightenment”. This enlightenment can be defined as a unification of the mind and body of man (the human/physical temple) with the mind and body of the spirit/god/energy of the temple. These temples are typically built in specific locations that align with particular energies that aid the process of transformation and enlightenment....

    By chance or design some people, due to their proximity to the alignments, are more influenced by its energies. Perhaps in the distant past this was planned for spiritual leaders, like druidic priests – key occurrences of their lives such as conception, birth and spiritual initiation occurred at strategic locations along the alignments, such as Avebury, during times of peak energy activity. For them, their body’s cells are exposed to a maximum level of energy. The very liquid crystal structure of billions of cells within their bodies resonates with the energy emanating from the fault lines....

    “The Laver of Water of Purification refers to the Waters of Binah, the Female Power refelcted in the Waters of Creation.” (p. 61 GD Second Knowledge Lecture) In the Practicus Ritual, the symbolism of the Stolistes, the Cup of Water is discussed:

    The Cup of the Stolistes partakes in part of the Symbolism of the Laver of Moses and the Sea of Solomon. On the Tree of Life, it embraces nine of the Sephiroth, exclusive of Kether. Yesod and Malkuth form the triangle below, the former the apex, the latter the base. Like Caduceus, it further represents the Three Elements of Water, Air and Fire. The Crescent is the Water which is above the Firmament, and the Triangle the consuming Fire below, which is opposed to the Celestial Fire symbolized by the upper part of the Caduceus....

    The conical crown channels the energy of energy frequency of Nimrod/Osiris/Baal/Buddha and the wearer becomes the embodiment/temple of the god. The knowledge of how to unite/resonate with a god/energy was guard secret and perhaps adds another aspect to the idea of “divine right” of rulership. In the Hindu/Buddhist practice of Vastu Shastra, it is believed that the temple not only is symbolic of the house of the deity on earth but it is the actual deity itself. The human body is a temple, so, adorning it in certain regalia will change the shape/reception of the antenna and temple/body. This will allow the body to channel a particular energy frequency, through oscillation, transforming the human bod/temple into the deity. This is one way that god-kings ruled by divine right or divine rite, for on certain people possessed the divine knowledge/mysteries of metaphysics and occult rites."


    So you can see form has it's place in the memes and icons of all things. The Pharaoh's hats, the Witch's hat and your dunce cap all focus energy to your Third Eye or Pineal gland we have said was also in the caduceus and looks like a pine cone. Your pineal gland has crystals and acts like a crystal radio set of old as the book The Wonder Child told us people like Gazzaniga and Edelman are researching. Any pressure or energy approaching the Thalami are processed and used by the adept. It was so effective that the Chanes of Central America boarded their kids head to make it separate the brain hemispheres to allow the cosmic energy direct access to the Thalami and Third Eye. Dagobert's trepanning was for this reason and not what academics tell you, he was a Merovingian King of France. One of the reasons laid out by Gardiner for the need of the fresh human thalami is those crystalline structures including Rhodium and Iridium. Thus you have the psychic supermen like the Bush Family who do the Bonesmen Obscene Rituals. I believe it wears off in short order and was just kidding about the Bush family being super.
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    Brian Fagan gives a summary of research on Homo Sapiens origins without including the obvious Neanderthal culture they are co-existent with and which go back at least 850,000 years ago. Today we know Denisovan Man might also have been a cross with Neanderthal. Last year's art found in Indonesia dated to over 500,000 years ago will send Fagan back to the drawing board or scribbler. Anyway - it is good to see what happened in this research at the time he wrote this book.

    I can imagine the laughter Fagan and Tharp would have issuing forth out of their body if someone they knew told them about this kind of stuff in a serious tone. How can myth makers think they can sell such stuff? Oh, I forgot. There is a long and cherished history of religious lies and utter nonsense. Imagine Lemuria began 18,000,000 years ago!!! What was this person DOing? LSD? Pangea having any mammals at all is far fetched, maybe Gondwanaland. I would laugh except I cry. It hurts to think kids will look up Lemuria and see this - then look no further.
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    The Introduction to my book Hitler v Frabato and "The Charm of Making" written long before Futurescape hit the airwaves or the Omega Stations expanded to make a complete coverage of our planet, might seem prophetic or an evidence of stupidity beyond any religion. I wrote it in the most open manner I could, to go along with Franz Bardon and a religion akin to Urantia Books and many other cults. It mentions Campbell and ancient knowledge of civilized cultures that co-incided with Neolithic cave dwellers over 462,000 years ago by his calculations. He would greatly increase that number of years but wonder more about how many are civilized and co-existing (lol) if he had lived another fifteen years, to when I wrote this book near the start of this millennium.

    You can read a lot of it for free at Scrib' It appears to have been put there by a Rosicrucian with interests in A Course in Miracles who was a follower of Franz Bardon and went or goes by the following name. Perhaps the language of the Rosicrucian document or book mentioned is Hungarian and maybe he is a Bavarian near where much of Bardon's book was set. In either case it is near Prague where many alchemists have labored over many years. It is influential throughout the Hapsburg Holy Roman Empire up to the Dragon Knights including Vlad the Impaler of the Holy Roman church, which it can be said he saved from Moslem invaders. But most important is St. Germain who was also born in Transylvania. His mother was a close relative of William of Hesse and they are related to the Rothschilds and de Medicis.

    A Rózsakereszt Szerzetének hitvallása - Confessio Fraternitatis R.C.


    Google translator tells me that the Szerzetenek word means singing monks but the phrase means Religious creed of the Rosy Cross.

    Byzantine coins of the fourth century AD were found in Chinese Emperors tombs. The Silk Route trade has flourished forever, and we have linguistic connections of Tocharian and Dravidian or South India to confirm this. When I say forever, I mean well over 500,000 years.

    As long as humans could walk they walked over the horizon and learned how to navigate by the heavens, landforms and vegetation. Once domesticated animals were their guides it became easier but when the Great Lop Nor was full of water and not the present day desert it was far easier. There have been cataclysms to reduce population at many times and a rise and fall related to that. But it was easier to travel on land than on water and we know humans reached Flores Island between Indonesia and Australia over 825,000 years ago. Recent evidence in southern China has artifacts dating to 3.4 million years ago. So academics need to wake up and ask questions like these:

    1. Were their many separate evolutionary trees for hominids in various parts of the world.

    2. Did the original genetic material develop before Gondwanaland split too far for humans to get from one place to another. These places include India, Australia and South America - and the original genetic material which may have became humans of different types including the Patagonian Land Giant started over 12 million years ago. Human pubic lice mutated about 1.8 million years ago and the American type might have developed in America on hominids that got there from South Africa when South America was far closer. I have addressed these and other questions to make sense of artifacts galore in a book titled Advanced Man - Before US,

    3. Humans developed breeding methods for animals, grains and other living things at least 15,-000 years ago. It is highly likely it started with humans having fun and enjoying other species or hominids a very long time ago. It is also highly likely that (just like now) sex ritual majik and other knowledge systems began over a million years ago with shamans. I am being very conservative when I say this. Eliade and many others agree.

    4. I suspect the region of the Nestorians and Temujin (who was one and a member of a shamanic family of great antiquity) is important to the most adept Sidhe aka Siddhar in Southern India. These are the people who started making Neanderthal cross breeds leading to both white people and the Denisovan Man found in caves near there. De" or "of" Ainu and DN, I have written many books about. I believe they are related to or the origin of the Magi you read about in the Nativity myth of the three (Three laws of the Magi) who attended the birth of a non-existent Roman character they worked their Magian or Thoth/Hermes intellectual system into via an allegorical code and myth. Manicheans are a later version of this. They had people inside Catholicism in constant contact between China and Rome. William of Rubruck was one such person who discovered the bio-weapon used to infect ghetto dwellers and spread the Plague blaming the Jews around 1300 AD.

    5. The Nestorian elites include the corporate and Royal families who kept many secrets even though they often tried to teach other people how to learn discipline and develop their oneness with WHAT IS and YHVH or the "I am" consciousness within all living energies (nature - per Buddhism and many other indigenous religions throughout time). The Zoroastrians and Magians or Merovingians all - are still worth further investigation.

    In this book you have a Christian proselyte denigrating things he does not even know are part of his own religion. This 'scholar' tells us Buddhists infected Nestorian truths and caused conflicts and misinterpretations.

    Wise Man from the East: Lit-sen Chang (Zhang Lisheng): ...

    Lit-sen Chang, ‎G. Wright Doyle - 2013 - ‎Religion
    Even more lamentable, of the so-called canon of the “nestorians,” some ... in the border area between China, russia, and Mongolia, their religion experienced ...
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