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    The Caribbean is the site of another thing which some would call a mystery. Until a few years ago I would have been inclined to put it in the paranormal control of soul category and I still believe that is part of it. However, we have scientifically identified the use of sea urchin extract as the agent which allows apparent death and subsequent use of a body by means as yet mysterious to scientists who negate the possibility of ESP type brain connection or possessions.

    Some would say that hypnosis might have something to do with it, but the witnesses and researchers think that is not the case; which does not mean it isn't involved because there are similarities between possession and hypnosis. They act on different bodies however. The connection between the mind or brain and the physical body is part of the act of soul related possession. There are body related possessions as well. Clearly the stupor state caused by the drug does affect both bodies and it may impact the spirit as well.

    As we proceed some of the issues will be dealt with but I cannot give a full explanation of what is involved, other than ritual magic and drug use. Having had possessions and ritual magic practiced upon me, I can honestly say I am certain it is able to affect such things on people who are suggestible and thus a person in a stupor has few (if any) defenses.

    Having experience with exorcisms I am sure little could be done to counteract the possession of the body by the drug and the magician would simply re-possess the body once it had been psychically cleansed. A Total de-tox and subsequent therapy including building the 'protection' of soul in the victim is required.

    The TV channel Nature produced a show on the origins of music and the biological and archetypal impact it has had on our evolution and emotional wherewithal. Along with reed instruments from as long ago as 60,000 years that obviously show sophisticated development of technology, they had the cave operas of those who rubbed and drummed on stalactites. They posited that the tree-swinging hominid that like the Sumatran Gibbon co-ordinates community for protection through territorial chants, is not so much less aware as most of our great Lockean influenced academics seem to be. These animals also learned what plants are dangerous and what plants alter your spiritual consciousness. You can see it when your puppy goes outside for the first time and chews on some grass to settle its tummy. Our genes contain a lot of information or the ability to tap-in to much knowledge. The buzz you get from 'weed' is the buzz coming from your Thalami and Third Eye or Pineal gland that has a crystal radio receiver and grains or crystalline structures. Crystalline structures like quartz were known to be useful in the Lost Chord of the Druids and more ancient shamans. There are magnificent quartz caves in Central America and other places that would have been used by early hominids for a certainty. We are taught math as if there are constants and yet it is questionable at least, whether there is truth in these assertions. If we started out with more questions it is possible our children could teach us due to the fact that some of them are more attuned and less programmed by our NONsense according to an excellent book titled The Wonder Child.

    When you research the great Nobel Laureate Murray Gell-Mann who coined the word quark you will find the Aspen Institute and Neuro-Psycho-Linguistics. This use of archetypes and triggers has a new name but an old origin even older than the Yoruba pantheon he draws inspiration from. The next post ( says that origin is 10,000 years and so many things are said to be that old because the authors are not intimate with the process or have bought Empire history and miss-story. NPL or NLP is older than language and the Sumatran gibbon or orangutans can demonstrate it. Bird calls are triggers and warnings which can be understood and imitated. In Easter thought it can be learned as an 'aspect' of the soul through attunement. Sure, it is true that NPL has a far more scientific assemblage of observations and techniques than your average bear (Yogi and Snagglepuss). I look forward to continued research on baby talk and genetic information transfer as well as what knowledge came from Dream Dancing which chimps and apes seem able to learn from.
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    By Brad Steiger

    Excerpted from Real Zombies, The Living Dead, and Creatures of the Apocalypse

    On Halloween night, Baron Samedi stands at the Crossroads, where the souls of dead humans pass on their way to the gate to Guinee, the astral counterpart of the ancient homeland in Africa. Samedi is a sexual loa, frequently represented by phallic symbols, and he is also noted for disruption, obscenity, debauchery, and having a particular fondness for tobacco and rum. As he is the loa of sex and resurrection, he is often called upon for healing by those near or approaching death. It is only the Baron who can accept an individual into the realm of the dead. Samedi is considered a wise judge and a powerful magician.

    Baron Samedi’s powers are especially great when it comes to Voodoo curses and black magic. Even if somebody has been inflicted by a hex which brings them to the verge of death, they will not die if the Baron refuses to dig their grave. So long as this mighty spirit keeps them out of the ground they are safe. On some occasions, the Baron will ask for a Voodoo ceremony in his honor. If he is in a bad mood, he may dig the grave of his supplicant bury him alive or bring him back as a mindless zombie.

    Who could have predicted the enormous popularity of the zombie in today’s culture when George Romero brought the monster into contemporary consciousness with his motion picture The Night of the Living Dead (1968)? Large numbers of our current population has gone “Zombie Nuts,” which has extended far beyond films and lead to mass numbers of men and women role-playing and gathering in large groups to dress, dance, and act like the zombies do. You can never predict when you may encounter large numbers of pseudo-zombies dancing at your local mall--even on days other than Halloween.

    Is it possible that millions of people could become “zombified” after a great apocalyptic event? In the great majority of current motion pictures, books, games, and other media expressions, the zombies are themselves initially the victims of a great biological warfare, a mysterious virus, or some kind of mass pandemic that first kills them, then resurrects them with the uncontrollable desire to chomp on all humans who remain uninfected.

    A real zombie is not the victim of biological warfare, a blast of radiation from a space vehicle, or a unknown virus that escaped a secret laboratory. A real zombie is a reanimated corpse who has been brought back to life to serve as slave labor.

    As Lisa Lee Harp Waugh, a noted Necromancer, writer, and student of Voodoo put it, “A Zombie is a soulless human corpse, still dead, but taken from the grave and endowed by sorcery with a mechanical semblance of life. It is a dead body, which is made to walk and act and move as if it were alive."

    For those who embrace the teachings of Voodoo, the zombie, the living dead, are to be feared as very real instruments of a Priestess or Priest who has yielded to the seduction of evil and allowed themselves to be possessed by negative forces and become practitioners of Dark Side sorcery.

    Lisa Lee said that some Southern zombie-making-rituals consist of digging up a fresh corpse from its tomb or deep grave.

    “The body is then fed strange potions and whispered to in strange chants,” she explained. “Many individuals who have witnessed the evil, dark deed say that it is disturbing to view. You stand frozen in the shadows as a voyeur to some devil dark secret spell. You see a recently deceased man being made into a zombie before your eyes.

    “Picture the image of a beautiful Voodoo Queen riding a rotting corpse like a wild banshee, having dark magical sex in a graveyard, “Lisa Lee continued. “Certainly this would be a sight that you will never forget. Imagine the strange image as candles flair, and mosquitoes bite hard into your skin. Then the spell comes to a conclusion as the zombie corpse comes to life. At that moment the Voodoo Queen takes him into what seems to be a deep kiss--and bites off his tongue to make him her eternal slave.”

    According to many authorities, it is in Benin City in southwestern Nigeria that Vodun began 350 years ago. In 1996, Vodun, Voodoo, won state recognition. January 10th was inaugurated as National Voodoo Day, and the religion that is practiced by 65% of the 5.4 million Beninese took its place alongside Christianity and Islam.

    Voodoo (Vodou, Vodoun, Vudu, or Vudun) in Benin, Togo, southeastern Ghana, Burkina Faso, and Senegal--also Vodou in Haiti-- is a name attributed to a traditionally unwritten West African spiritual system of faith and ritual practices. Like most faith systems, the core functions of Voodoo are to explain the forces of the universe, influence those forces, and influence human behavior. Voodoo's oral tradition of faith stories carries geneology, history, and fables to succeeding generations. Adherents honor deities and venerate ancient and recent ancestors. This faith system is widespread across groups in West Africa. Diaspora spread Voodoo to North and South America and the Caribbean.

    At the center of more traditional African tribal religions is the concept of a universal force of life that finds its expression in all things--humans, animals, vegetable, and mineral. The conviction that there is a oneness of all life forms, that both humans and everything else in the environment draw spiritual nourishment from the same sacred source is now known to be a common expression of shamanism and the teaching of tribal spirit “doctors.”

    Some historians of Voodoo suggest that the origin of the word “zombie” may have come from jumbie, the West Indian term for a ghost. Others scholars favor the Kongo word nzambi, “the spirit that has resided in the body and is now freed” as filtering down through the ages as “zombie.”

    Although the practice of Voodoo and the creation of zombies was familiar to the residents of Louisiana before 1871, a number of etymologists believe that year is about the time that the word “zombi” entered the English language. The word that was originally used by the Haitian Creole people, these scholars maintain, was zonbi, a Bantu term for a corpse returned to life without speech or free will. There are others who argue quite convincingly that Zombi is another name for Damballah Wedo, the snake god so important to Voodoo. In other words, a zombie would be a servant of Damballah Wedo, the python god, who created the world.

    Damballah Wedo stretched out his 7,000 coils to form the stars in the heavens and to mold the hills and valleys of Earth. His mighty lightning bolts cooled to fashion metals, rocks, and stones. When he perceived that water was necessary for life, he shed his skin and allowed it to melt into all the oceans, rivers, lakes, and waters on the planet. As the foam was settling from the life-giving deluge of water, the sun shining through the mist and a lovely rainbow was born. This rainbow was Ayida Wedo. Damballah fell instantly in love with her beauty, and the serpent and the rainbow became one: Damballah Wedo. Damballah Wedo speaks only to humans by possessing a follower of Voodoo, Santeria, Macumba or one of the other African religions. This possession most often takes place during the dancing that follows other ritual observances.

    Numerous practitioners of Voodoo insist that the practice developed a more sinister side only after the advent of the slave trade shipped millions of West Africans to Haiti, Cuba, and the Americas. The Old Gods followed their captive people to help them survive and to cast evil spells upon those who would enslave them. At the same time, the people who were carried far from their home villages cleverly began to use the names of Catholic saints to disguise the ancient ones in their pantheon of gods under the names of those whom their captors deemed holy.

    Vodun or Voudou means “spirit” in the language of the West African Yoruba people, and the religion observes elements from an African tribal cosmology that may go back as many as ten thousand years--and then it disguises these ancient beliefs with the teachings, saints, and rituals of Roman Catholicism. Early slaves--who were abducted from their homes and families on Africa's West Coast--brought their gods and religious practices with them to Haiti and other West Indian islands. Plantation owners were compelled by order of the French colonial authorities to baptize their slaves in the Catholic religion. The slaves suffered no conflict of theology. They accepted the white man's “water” and quickly adopted Catholic saints into the older African family of nature gods and goddesses.
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    Yes, the Greeks believed in the supernatural and so also do modern Nobel Laureates like Murray Gell-Mann and almost every other true scientist. But journalists always seek sensationalism and are not aware of real research.

    "Archaeologists are claiming to have uncovered new evidence that is suggesting the ancient civilization believed in the undead, whom were capable of rising from their graves at night.

    “The ancient Greeks provide an example of a civilization that wholly embraced the supernatural,” wrote Carrie Sulosky Weaver, an archaeologist at the University of Pittsburgh, in the publication Popular Archaeology.

    According to Discovery News, there has been newly discovered graves at a necropolis of a Greek colony in Sicily. Known as Passo Marinaro, the cemetery is located near the coastal town of Kamarina, in southeastern Sicily, which was inhabited from the 5th through 3rd centuries B.C.

    Archaeologists have already excavated 2,905 bodies at the site – more than half of which contained terracotta vases, figurines and metal coins with the bodies, Discovery News reports.

    There were two graves, however, that stood out amongst the rest.

    One tomb, labelled 653, contained a person of unidentifiable sex, who appeared to have suffered from serious malnutrition and illness. The body was found completely pinned down by fragments of amphora, which are large two-handled vessels used for holding wine or olive oil.

    Another tomb, labelled 693, contained the remains of a child who was 8 to 13 years old. Although there were no sign of disease found on the remains, the child was buried with five large stones placed on top of the body, as if to trap the body in its grave, says Weaver.

    Weaver suggests in her article that “their special treatment suggests that necrophobic [fear of the dead] beliefs and practices were present in Greek Sicily.”

    Along with the bodies, archeologists also uncovered tablets inscribed with magic spells, called Katadesmoi at Passo Marinaro. This has led archaeologists to believe there were ancient Greeks not only using magic or a higher power to protect their towns from the undead.

    Weaver will be releasing her findings on the ancient Greeks’ fear of zombies as well as their other beliefs in her upcoming book, The Bioarchaeology of Classical Kamarina: Life and Death in Greek Sicily. It will be published by the University Press of Florida this coming September."

    The age of the child and the fact that it had no disease tells me this was a Poltergeist event, not anything like a Zombie at all. Sicily at this time was on the trade route to the Americas and such things as the purpura shellfish which enabled Tyrean Purple dyes of immense value. Zelia Nuttall of the Peabody Museum proved this and you could still find the shellfish in caves around Nyarit Mexico, until recently according to a travel site - not anything academic of course. Perhaps the seafarers stopped off in Hispaniola where Zombie inducing drugs exist according to recent research.
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    Here's another crazy example of how little we actually know about nature.

    Scientists previously believed that the life of a Japanese oakblue butterfly caterpillar resembled that of a queen bee or ant, due to its loyal ant servants. But a new paper, published in the journal Current Biology shows the Japanese species in a more ominous light.

    Previously scientists assumed that they stayed with the caterpillar in some sort of symbiotic relationship on their own volition, for the sake of benefiting from a sugary syrup-like secretion from the caterpillar.

    However, the Japanese research showed that it was the same ants which constantly stood guard over the caterpillar. Read the full article here:

    Zombie bodyguards: How caterpillars enslave ants with sugar addiction
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