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    I suppose it is important to know some of the pre-Pythagoreans (born to a Phoenician mother on the island of Samos) and try to get access to the DNN who colonized Greece. The knowledge of the Lost Chord or Harmonics may in fact be what the Pentagon Dodecahedron and astrology is all about - it is definitely important to the energy around us and within.

    The Chaldeans addressed in the last post were part of the pan-tribal Keltic and later Phoenician Brotherhood. You will find evidentiary insight in the following first linked book for that assertion. The Druids had names in many languages, because they were in many regions of the Brotherhood. In Thrace their Bairds of the Druidic system or structure were called Kapnobatai.

    The academics who ridicule and misquote Herodotus are doing the same kind of destruction of knowledge which included the burning and destruction of books by the likes of Poseidonius. I can liken it to the tyrannical scholasticism and torture of the dark Ages as well. They are still among us quoting others who did the same thing. Caesar is widely quoted as an author - it is unlikely he wrote anything. His propagandists including Hirtius wrote what he is credited with having written. You will even find people saying Homer (A Bard like Orpheus and Abaris) never existed even after his books have been the source for the discovery of Troy and many other things the world over.

    It is hard to say when Orpheus lived but I agree with the following author who says he influenced Pythagoras (not in person) and who was a Kapnobatai or poet, bard or baird. They are one of three main divisions of Druidry. I also agree with the connections to Magi, gymnosophists and others. Abaris was the last known Dean of Studies for this system of education which included sending children to relatives in other parts of the world.

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=pJu...eus%22&f=false

    And there is a lot of talk about 'smoke-walkers' being cannabis smokers and a synonym for Kapnobatai. Surely they smoked cannabis - on occasion. So what? These people could influence the direction of the smoke in fires - see thread Firewalkers. This book has the kind of invective directed at Herodotus and outright lies and dis-information characteristic of academia. You can say Napoleon did not exist and create massive convolutions to prove the point - so it is certainly easy to do the same about Orpheus.

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=WDR...eus%22&f=false

    Will alien theorists mouthing Biblical nonsense start to band together and admit they were duped?

    “Chapter 7 Atlantis and the Earth grid

    The vibrating aether energy that shapes the atom moment by moment also shapes the planets, the stars and all the rest of the universe in the very same way. The Platonic energy fields at the quantum level should therefore also be found at the macroscopic scale of our own planet Earth. The scale of the wavelengths may be different but the ratio of the interfering aether wavelengths are the same, the ratio is inherently fixed by the geometry of the Platonic solids. Another way of saying the same thing is that atoms, planets and stars are interconnected by the fractal patterns of the Platonic solids. We will demonstrate in this chapter that the Platonic solids also create an energy matrix around the Earth that scientists now call the ‘Earth grid’.

    The Earth grid

    A number of scientists have been working on the Earth grid model, but the first one was Ivan P. Sanderson. Sanderson found that the twelve ‘Devil’s Graveyards’ around the world were geometrically spaced from one another. The ‘Devil’s Graveyards’ are the triangular areas in the world where physical anomalies have been reported such as the mysterious disappearances of ships and airplanes for no apparent reason. The most famous of them is the Bermuda triangle; second best known is Devil’s Sea east of Japan. There have been many reports of time and space dilations that were accompanied by loss of compass, altimeters, artificial horizon, loss of radio contact and other strange phenomena that many airplane pilots experienced while flying over the Bermuda triangle. There have been reports of planes that after arrival seemed to have travelled through a different time zone since all watches on board were late by exactly the same time! Sanderson noticed that there are five ‘Devil’s Graveyards’ in the Northern Hemisphere, five in the Southern Hemisphere and two at the poles, twelve in total forming the exact vertices of the icosahedron!

    Three Russian scientists, Nikolai Goncharov, Vyacheslav Morozov, and Valery Makarov made the next step in the construction of the Earth grid. They started with Sanderson’s work and added the dodecahedron to the grid pattern.

    Bruce Cathie discovered independently the octahedron and cube in the subtle energy fields of the Earth and this was later given the name the Cathie grid.

    Husband and wife scientists William Becker and Bethe Hagens finally put the complete Earth grid symmetry together. Becker is a Professor of Industrial Design at the University of Illinois, Chicago, and Bethe Hagens is a Professor of Anthropology at Governors State University of Illinois. Starting from the icosa-dodecahedron grid they added a special polyhedron developed by sacred geometry explorer R. Buckminster Fuller. The official term of their final Earth grid is the Unified Vector Geometry 120 Polyhedron, or the UVG 120 also called the ‘Earth Star’.”

    http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter7.html
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    Cool

    There are many codes, I have no doubt
    The meaning certain to freak you out
    But all the visions of anti-Christ
    Are projections there, you pay a price

    I cannot say every system is of no concern but I have not seen numbers cause any specific action to occur. Yes, the four powers primary and secondary are in mandalas, and along with an invisible force binding all (Kether in the Tree of Life) they offer a lot of learning. The forces do flow along lines and can be directed through intent imbedded in systems and mandalas etc. I do know symbols affect our mind and soul, and numbers like letters are symbols in the beginning. Neuro-Linguistics is certainly not new and it is used in psychiatry as well as by agencies like the CIA. Memetics has a powerful influence but just how much of it is due to our fears built up over millennia of exposure, such as the Swastika? Does astrology really work, and is it an exacting mathematical science we could learn? I have not learned it that well but I know people who have, and have seen applied knowledge from it, work wonders.

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nspiracy39.htm

    My friend Dennis Fetcho is a major league specialist in gematria and you can say he invented the Isisian Code he explores at length. I think the ancient Kelts and DNN including Isis and Osiris developed many ways to manifest reality including all alphabets. They became known as Phoenicians which I have amply proven in many threads (Ogham and Aymara included). This 'manifesting of reality' takes time and is like the alchemical tincture, insidious and undetectable after established inside your mind or our collective soul. Here are a few words from The Fetch as Dennis is sometimes called.

    "The Roman numbering system, like much of Greco-Roman culture, has survived and prospered through two millenia. The very survival of the Roman numbering system hints at a larger necessity: the survival of the Roman numbering system is integral to the larger Letter-Number system of the Western Illuminati. Without the mathematical values of the Roman numbering system, a larger, composite philosophy within Western occult constructions could not be assembled into a composite whole.

    Within the Roman numbering systems holds adumbration's of a larger truth. Thus there is a necessity to preserve the Roman numbering system precisely because within the Roman numbering system lay hidden key details to a larger luminous system. This luminous philosophical system lies, further, beyond the reach of any single cultural perception.

    It was the Greek's via Pythagorus, and later, the Romans, who utilized and taught the idea of "letters as numbers". The idea that "letters and numbers are as one, inseparable" remains at the very core of the Illuminatus, or Qaballistic, system. It was the later Hebrews would would morph Pythagorean ideas on meta-numerics into their "Torah" and ideas of "Kabballah".

    Clearly, one of the inital, and primary (Qaballistic) codes based on Letters/Numbers was the Roman (and Greek) numbering system(s).

    The preservation of this core Letter/Number philosophical codes would be necessary and, so, like silent sentinels from the past, Roman numbering may to this day be found gracing the facades of architecture, books, coins, as well as being prominently displayed in the modern era in the Arts in the form of "film"."
    http://illuminatusobservor.blogspot....#axzz3ckpIGJQr

    Siddhis and power needs or rituals which create a specific response amaze the wide-eyed ego of children. I once was told by a man who at age 29 had been the head of 13 covens in New England, past President of the Yale Theosophical Society, consultant on parapsychology to a well-respected psychiatric research group, and one of only six medical astrologers in North America - "When I was young I played with the things of children". He had also taught Silva Mind Control and was the first non-Silva person authorized to do so. Here is some mind candy to consider.

    "I think that, with magic, we want proof. We want flash. We want miracles. And when we don’t get those, we wonder what magic is. When we see how magic works, it doesn’t seem very flashy…or, we realize how unimportant the flash really is.

    Maybe that’s why it’s so hard to put my finger on magic. Because magic is, at its core, one of the mysteries. You can’t work it til you experience it, and it’s really hard to put it into words.

    People try. They write spell books that read more like recipes, they create informational graphics like the Kabbalistic Tree of Life to explain how the universe works…but that doesn’t teach what’s going on beneath. It’s a map, but it’s not the terrain. Nor is it the only map. It’s not the actual underpinnings of the universe, just one map to it that may or may not work for you or for me.

    And at the core, I think that word magic has so much bound up in it. It’s a powerful, loaded word all on its own.



    I think we desperately seek magic. We humans desperately seek that unexplained, that enchantment, that thrilling delight that there’s something intense below the surface. We seek that breathtaking reveal…and that’s the essence of the mysteries.

    Once you’ve seen it, you can’t unsee it. But it also isn’t something you can readily explain to others–that’s the nature of one of the mysteries.

    Some people want to be part of the in-crowd that understands these mysteries, wanting that power, wanting to be special, wanting to control the forces of nature. I think magic will always have that inherent fascination and attraction. Take the word charisma; I talk a lot in my ritual classes about what charisma means and how to be a charismatic facilitator, but the word alone has that magical quality to it–a sparkle, a charm.

    I think that what a lot of other folks want out of magic is to believe in miracles. To believe that there is something out there looking out for them, that’s going to rescue them in a time of need. Or perhaps we’re just looking for proof that there is some order to the universe and that we have some control over that.

    I think perhaps it’s a little terrifying to think that we are alone on a floating marble spinning out in the blackness of space and that we’re on our own, that there’s no divine plan, no divine beings to rescue us, no powers to control all the things that could go wrong.

    External Magic and Need
    That’s also some of what I mean with what I wrote earlier…the more out of control I feel in a situation, the more I feel that I’m powerless and things are happening to me, the more I want something magical, mystical, and unseen to be able “rescue me,” in the case of working with the divine. Or…the power to manipulate the forces of the universe to rescue myself."


    http://www.shaunaauraknight.com/category/thaumaturgy/
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    There are followers and promoters of St. Germain today who lie and cheat with the best priestly blowhards. The Stardoves and Elizabeth Clare Prophet (Profit - it should be) are among them. I cannot say to what extent Summit University is a fraud - they may be duped by others and no doubt that is true of many including the Masons who still use his books as part of their studies. Some of these people will tell you St. Germain is an immortal who lived before the time of Christ or to be perfectly clear before that myth was written about by his ancestors. I do suspect you can take 'his' to mean either of them. For you see St. Germain is De Medicis and therefore Benjaminite who marry throughout many eras with Merovingians. In my book on St. Germain which many sites say they allow you to read for free - but you must give credit card info to join - I quote St. Germain saying the stories of his immortality are false. That does not mean he was not a soulful immortal and Ascended Master.

    There are numerous researchers who show the connections of the Illuminati to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (Years after
    Crowley and Regardie) come because the Rothschilds include esotericists just as the De Medicis named St. Germain had set up the schooling system in Vienna for them as he passed the spy network and financial monopoly (These things are most connected.) to the Rothschilds. Most of these researchers do not get the esoterics behind the acts and organizations or see the Corpus Hermeticum translated and called De Brix for what this means. De Brix is like De Bruges, it is another translation of the Bruttii and a family that founded Rome and Britain which has been ruling and building sophisticated means of control or Empire ever since. These BEES include more than the 'bees' of Childeric which the Merovingian Napoleon put upon his Holy Roman Emperor's investiture robe. They were in Egypt and are the Royal House of Mallia on Crete in 2200 BC. Technology such as cistern design are part of why I connect them with the Shardana of Sardinia and the Trojan War fortress found a few decades ago. That fortress only was used for the duration of that war but it was not near Troy, which supports the theory that there were many theatres of operation and indeed a World War.


    There are some researchers who are cluing in to the inner sanctum of esoteric Heliopolitan or Luciferian (Druidic) Vatican types who are Hibernian double agents like St. Bernard or Robespierre, Rumford, Lafitte, Da Vinci, Dee, Columbus and all the rest. It would appear I am the only researcher who has connected Hoffet to both Saunière and Plantard de St. Clair (Sinclair BEE) who both were
    leaders of The Priory of Sion like Da Vinci. This is the major reason I wrote a book on Saunière. Because I am called an alchemist by high Rosicrucians I have known, I am in a position to know what Hoffet studied and one or more of the techniques he used in his position in the Documentation branch for the Vatican. Bibliomancy and genetic encoded information are just part of the arts and artifices in alchemy for many millennia.


    So when you read about Sauniere being introduced around the esoteric salons of Paris by this man you are getting close to the true Da Vinci Code. It is all about Synarchy! But that does not mean George Bernard Shaw and his London School of Economics venture was not well-intentioned, anymore than it means Annie Besant (One of a very few female Masons) did no good work with Krishnamurti or in establishing India. It does not mean Yeats or Stein knew the role they played in this Hegelian Dialectic that truly is 'Charmed'. But I am pretty sure Hoffet and his ilk have used The Charm of Making on these people just as it has been used on me.

    It does make me wonder what role Plantard played at Lake Leman with Kissinger, Baruch and the Rat Lines reconstruction of Europe as well as what he was doing with the Gestapo before they returned him to his role in the French underground during the war. It does make me want to know more about Plantard and Prince Bernhart of the Thulean Gestapo who founded the Bilderbergs with the aid of the OSS/CIA. Yes, there is a wide-ranging 'Charmed Circle' to say the least. Of course I was also lead into a book I write titled The Charmed Circle.

    The Philosopher's Stone is not just a spiritual allegory for a personal enlightenment despite what many people will tell you. They say
    these things because it is true that a spiritual enlightenment is required if one is to make a 'Stone', and because they have not
    done the 'work'. Israel Regardie wrote a book called The Philosopher's Stone in which he said it was only a metaphor or
    allegory. Regardie is worth reading and he was the personal secretary for Aleister Crowley and the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn which some authors say is satanistic. The authors who say that are often Bible Thumpers and worse. It is Luciferian and Lucifer is the Venus light or Heliopolitan Druidic system. It is a good spiritual course and Regardie's work on the books of the HOGD that present part of that course are possibly the best books to introduce people to the Path. You can be certain that the De Medicis were not stupid superstitious people despite the fact that they bought the Papacy more than a few times. I cannot emphasize this enough. The De Medicis paid to have the Corpus Hermeticum translated and had their family name (De Brix) used as the title. They were not mere 'farmers' or 'bauers'. They have always been of the highest understanding. This is one of the reasons you can be sure the Rothschilds are the De Medicis. Both of these families used the same old song about being 'farmers (De Medicis) or 'bauers' which is translated as 'farmers'.


    I think there is a good possibility that Saunière happened upon a 'Stone'. It might even have been the 'Stone' used by
    Nostradamus or Leonardo. Nostradamus was protected by the De Medicis and Leonardo was one of their employees. It is even possible that Sauniere was able to influence the future he saw in the 'Stone' in a more meaningful way than other Time (or Impeccable) Warriors like Carlos Castaneda. This explanation fits with his knowing when he would die and his being able to stop that death but having been told (By the Hapsburg Holy Roman Emperors) that he would not be allowed to choose a different date to die. In fact this explanation is the one I personally favor out of all the possible explanations for the enormous sums of money he was provided. I am still not certain where they got all this money.
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    Song, dance, mime, jester's arts, artistic representations of all manner, are purveyors of coded knowledge. A wink or a handshake, as well as an energetic word or two is enough to introduce a person to another with no need to ramble on for days about what they have studied.

    Manly Hall has given many learned people a lot to think about and yet it would appear most academics involved in linguistics have little or no awareness of his excellent scholarship. We need to crack all codes in symbology before we can honestly say we know what technology and wisdom the ancients had. The language of the birds or BRDs is one of the most ancient systems which I think evolved into the Hermetic Green Languages and qabala used by the likes of Goethe (Founder of a Jesuit short term Illuminized group most people ramble on about as if it is all there was.), Thomas Carlyle in Sartor Restartus, Jonathan Swift and many more. In my work on Shakespeare I uncovered Francis Bacon using code to claim the works of his friend William whose work he published. It took about 50 years for some people to decipher it and now there are many who think it means Bacon wrote Shakespeare. Such is the way of ignorant ego among pretenders to knowledge. As Hugo knew, Shakespeare also wrote in hermetic code.

    "The arcana of the ancient Mysteries were never revealed to the profane except through the media of symbols. Symbolism fulfilled the dual office of concealing the sacred truths from the uninitiated and revealing them to those qualified to understand the symbols. Forms are the symbols of formless divine principles; symbolism is the language of Nature. With reverence the wise pierce the veil and with clearer vision contemplate the reality; but the ignorant, unable to distinguish between the false and the true, behold a universe of symbols. It may well be said of Nature--the Great Mother--that she is ever tracing strange characters upon the surface of things, but only to her eldest and wisest sons as a reward for their faith and devotion does she reveal the cryptic alphabet which is the key to the import of these tracings.

    The temples of the ancient Mysteries evolved their own sacred languages, known only to their initiates and never spoken save in the sanctuary. The illumined priests considered it sacrilege to discuss the sacred truths of the higher worlds or the divine verities of eternal Nature in the same tongue as that used by the vulgar for wrangling and dissension. A sacred science must needs be couched in a sacred language. Secret alphabets also were invented, and whenever the secrets of the wise were committed to writing, characters meaningless to the uninformed were employed. Such forms of writing were called sacred or Hermetic alphabets. Some--such as the famous angelic writing--are still retained in the higher degrees of Masonry.

    Secret alphabets were not entirely satisfactory, however, for although they rendered unintelligible the true nature of the writings, their very presence disclosed the fact of concealed information--which the priests also sought to conceal. Through patience or persecution, the keys to these alphabets were eventually acquired and the contents of the documents revealed to the unworthy. This necessitated employment of more subtle methods for concealing the divine truths. The result was the appearance of cryptic systems of writing designed to conceal the presence of both the message and the cryptogram. Having thus devised a method of transmitting their secrets to posterity, the illuminati encouraged the circulation of certain documents specially prepared through incorporating into them ciphers containing the deepest secrets of mysticism and philosophy. Thus medieval philosophers disseminated their theories throughout Europe without evoking suspicion, since volumes containing these cryptograms could be subjected to the closest scrutiny without revealing the presence of the hidden message."



    http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta42.htm

    Do you think those who really know Kether (invisible) or the all imbuing energy in the TREE are going to share with the HOD logician or if they tried how much would be understood?
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    So what is the occult (means 'hidden') science? We just saw the Qabala which was on the fringe of these understandings and we have mentioned 'harmonics' and 'chaos science' as well as a host of other 'possibilities'. Here is another author talking about Pythagoras whose 'Brotherhood' is thought to be one of the 'cliques' of the 'octopus' of the Masons which we dealt with in great detail in CtIC. David Barrett is a 'spy' and 'social engineer' who did the same kind of job that Aleister Crowley (the '666') did for MI-6. Barrett did this job until about eight years ago. He admits he still follows the Official Secrets Act and that he was an esoteric 'expert' for GCHQ (associated with MI-6). He wrote Secret Societies in 1999 which says this on page 22:

    "Mathematics and geometry, the occult properties of numbers {Known as numerology} and the relationship between them, lay behind the whole world, and the heavens above. Pythagoras is believed to have formulated the idea of the musical octave, and explained the mathematical basis for musical intervals and harmonics. The entire universe is in vibration, singing, producing the 'music of the spheres'. He is reputed to have worked out the Golden Section, the mathematical ratio which lies behind much of the esoteric meaning of architecture."
    The 'Golden Section' is a central area of Masonic study and Pythagoras was Phoenician born and studied in Babylon and in Egypt where he learned these things from the Pyramid. (like Thales) Does Barrett know these things? Asimov knows it - and he isn't an 'expert' in esoterics. Is it important to hide the Phoenicians and their history in order to make 'his'-story become pre-eminent? Barrett goes even further than hiding the Phoenicians he also hides the antiquity of the Hermetic knowledge they developed and added to over tens of thousands of years. Yes, 'occult' includes Pythagoras and Socrates as well as Aquinas, Ostanes, Newton, Da Vinci, Paracelsus, Jefferson, Paine, Boyle, Cleopatra, and we shall soon see Moses' sister - Mariae. There is little doubt in our mind if a reader reads what we have put into this book and checks out our reference material from the Bibliography they will become 'conversos' to the truth.
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    Robert,

    Please feel free to quote me at will - there's a first time for everything!

    I am beginning to see that we have quite a bit in common, as I have thought many times as well about the primordial Word, and about the esoteric aspects of music and harmonics. Concerning your namesake, I remember reading once (I cannot remember the source) that the most ancient of the bards were so talented and practiced with the art of sound that they could directly control people - to the point of lethality if it was required (self-defense, I hope!). This harkens back to the stories of the Anunnaki and the Aelves - the ancient 'gods' and their hybrid offspring; so I would not be surprised if you were descended from this ultra-elite group (and not alone by your name - your varied interests also speak volumes in this regard).

    My father was a music professor and taught - among other things - the physics of string oscillation and mechanical harmonics; as I grew older I became interested in the subject as well. I look forward to a time when I might be able to understand such things at a level deep enough to understand and/or develop techniques that would branch out to adjacent fields (as learning, linguistics, control technology, etc.).

    The subject of Solresol immediately reminds me of The Sound of Music ("Do - a dear, a female dear..."); the movie had an impact on my mother - who was also a music teacher at home (piano) - and she briefly made each of her students aware of the simple do-re-mi method of remembering the standard major scale. But I didn't know that there was a linguistic application - and I don't think my parents knew, either.

    My youngest sister went to live in Hong Kong when she was 19 (as a missionary), and ended up speaking both Cantonese and Mandarin; it was from her that I learned the quasi-musical component of the Chinese languages. She explained that most Chinese words have what I would call 'relative tones' (by relative I mean not exact notes, but simply tones relatively lower or higher than others). This made me wonder what part music might have played in the fundamental lives of the very ancient Chinese people.

    My wife is from Ecuador and so I've been slowly learning Spanish for a number of years; I have concluded that Spanish is a generally inefficient language - it takes more syllables in Spanish to say the same thing in English (which is even more frustrating in music composition, which requires the composer to compress intended meaning into as few words as possible, and to conform words and syllables into the tight musical structure of the song). Now, as you bring up Solresol and it's tonal component, I am suddenly stricken (again) by the idea of compression (and the necessity of compression in the development of 'a perfect language').

    The general idea of compression is one of desired efficiency; every idea should be transmitted from one person to another with as few 'components' as possible, arranged within the dimension of time. In most spoken languages, phonetics provides the only component. In Chinese and Solresol, musical tone has been introduced as another component - a component that can be used for further compression of meaning within time (although I know almost nothing about either Chinese or Solresol, so I don't know if the tonal component is used for maximum efficiency within the time domain). My point is that tone can be used to promote efficiency of oral communication, if the linguistic engineer understands how to use it in such a way (it's actually quite simple - a singular vowel/consonant combination can be used to represent new and different meanings when spoken at a different tonal levels).

    I strongly suspect that the 'Language of the Birds' employed such methodologies not only for the sake of efficiency, but also to provide an added utilitarian vector - that of direct acoustic control...



    Stuart


    I hope he will join us for more discourse on this very important research which will include the Tepaphone and caduceus staff stuff we have covered in other threads. Not likely though - because he is under the spell of a know-it-all Rosicrucian of the lower variety influenced by Blavatsky et al - AMORC.
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    Dear Stuart




    My Ogham mentor looked like one of the Leprechauns and my father tried to teach me the pixie language as he told me to listen hard to women as they chatter - skipping over all manner of things some people feel are important.




    The ANu (naki) are the DN or DNN of Homer and we are on the verge of having proof they genetically bred the Denisovan man as a cross with themselves and Neanderthal. They are (I am getting to know - and my books on the Children of the Don (DN) are numerous) the Ainu. AN is a god in many places and regions and loads of other proof linguistic and DNA as well as archaeomythology.




    You mention Chinese harmonics in language - even truer of Hawaiian and a student of the man who found Machu Picchu is one of my linguistic sources - he compiled the ancient Huna language. But if you reverse Huna and drop the aspirant 'H' you get the Ainu again. Remember the language of the Birds is originally without vowels and is my last name.




    I think you and I need to have a greater conversation at this site where I have things to refer and which are not being posted here. Specifically I have tried to get a working Pavlita Generator mixed with a Tepaphone which I have reason to believe included the ancient staffs with symbols like the caduceus - it includes our pineal gland represented as well as DNA. The Ankh is vital to this as Pavlita surmised but he did not take it far enough. There is a very interesting meditation called Unsheathing the Soul from Daniel Matt in the Essential Kaballah which will COMPRESS your insight.

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    Alex has authorized a man named Johan Oldencamp to invite authors to his radio show. I said no - unless I see his agenda and I see an agenda of value to humanity.

    The use of buzz words from ancient and current science is not enough. It could be good or it could be more hocus-pocus from christians like Tom Horn who appears at the same area of You Tube when you look up his DNA third strand.

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    This excellent compilation on numbers and Pythagoras deserves to be in many threads throughout the forum but I chose this thread because of the through line that Pythagoras saw in his musical octaves and the Harmonic in all matter.

    http://blog.world-mysteries.com/scie...at-it-already/

    http://www.carboneria.it/druidorder.htm

    Perhaps I should not be so harsh on them because they emphasize Britain and have not done the research to take it back a lot further. They get a few things as correct as any do, and are worth a read.

    "After Hu Gadarn, Aed Mawr is said to have set up The Druid Order about 1,000 B.C., with three Archdruidic sees and thirty-one other centres of learning. Classical tradition, however unreliable, agrees with this in speaking of the reception of the founder-philosopher of Greece, Pythagoras, into The Druid Order in Marseilles in about 529 B. C.

    It has also a legend, already old to Herodotus, who disbelieved it, {My reading of Hecateus sees him as confirming the great wisdom, language knowledge and other arts demonstrated by Abaris.} that visiting Pythagoras came one Abaris, from the land of the Hyperboreans he being a priest of Apollo, speaking perfect Greek and “fit for the reception of wisdom.”

    Passing over these more doubtful figures which approximate to myth, more sober traditions and records agree in attributing to the Druids an elaborate and lengthy wisdom teaching with several grades, and an influence over princes and Celtic tribal peoples alike.

    “The Druids,” says Ceasar (Gallic Wars, Bk. 6 {-written by his propagandist Hirtius but academics still don't know or will not say} ) “preside in matters of religion, have the care of sacrifice and interpret the will of the Gods. They have the direction and education of youth… In almost all controversies… the decision is left to them… The Druids never go to war, are exempted from taxes and military service.”

    The young “are taught to repeat a great number of verses by heart and often spend twenty years upon this institution… They (the Druids) teach likewise many things relating to the stars and their motions, the magnitude of the world and our earth, the nature of things and the power and prerogatives of the immortal gods.”

    Britain not Gaul, was the centre or holy land of this formidable body and although Bardism compromised, disastrously for itself, with the Roman power in Gaul, here Druidism fought the invaders tooth and nail.

    How far it was really driven out one cannot tell; it remained strong in Scotland, Wales and above all Ireland, whence the Christianised Druids returned as the missionaries known as Culdees and probably formed the background of great missionaries such as St. Columba (Columcille) who founded the Celtic Church in Britain.

    The Arthurian traditions are clearly Druidic in their earlier forms, being part of a mystery teaching which includes the Welsh mythology."
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    There are many Ptolemies and I confess I do not know most of them. The one who was put in charge of Egypt by Alexander and who was an alchemist that created a storehouse of books and knowledge we call the Great Library of Alexandria is most important. But Claudius Ptolemy made many maps that support the Roman world view which became a substantial part of the ignorance behind Romanism - not Christianity in truth. There were other foul renditions of an earth with the Pope at the center of the universe promulgated that kept many in fear of monsters at the edge of the earth.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Geography-...KDSCQQX853TRSA

    I consider the following book a find of some value and I just might spend serious time reading it. There is an entry in the index which includes a Ptolemy who was the son of Alexander, is this true? I know it is true that up until the total indoctrination of most Christians in the seventh century that Alexander was considered an equal to the Jesus of the Gospels. Are they both amalgams of people with the same names and titles? There is an Alexander who is defeated by a Ptolemy and this Alexander is a King of the Jews, or so it says.

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=Bkh...ter%22&f=false

    Is there anything more in balance or harmonized than something identical on either side of the mirror (WITHIN and WITHOUT) or universe? Science used to say you could not have co-existing matter and anti-matter. Some still say only for a brief moment - NOW we have this. They may MIRROR each other. And that is what mystics have said about our universe associating with another which energy passes back and forth in - like we now know is the case with Black Holes. Penrose and Hawking thought not - until about a decade ago.

    http://www.livescience.com/51833-mat...or-images.html

    Colour and sound research may prove fruitful but many flakes will precede the proofs.

    http://www.armonicumdelogos.org/4/it...n_3447496.html
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