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    Gematria, Memes and NLP

    There are many codes, I have no doubt
    The meaning certain to freak you out
    But all the visions of anti-Christ
    Are projections there, you pay a price

    I cannot say every system is of no concern but I have not seen numbers cause any specific action to occur. Yes, the four powers primary (4) and secondary (4) are in mandalas, and along with an invisible force binding all (Kether in the Tree of Life) they offer a lot of learning. The forces do flow along lines and can be directed through intent imbedded in systems and mandalas etc. I do know symbols affect our mind and soul, and numbers like letters are symbols in the beginning. Neuro-Linguistics is certainly not new and it is used in psychiatry as well as by agencies like the CIA. Memetics has a powerful influence but just how much of it is due to our fears built up over millennia of exposure, such as the Swastika? Does astrology really work, and is it an exacting mathematical science we could learn? I have not learned it that well but I know people who have, and have seen applied knowledge from it, work wonders.

    My friend Dennis Fetcho is a major league specialist in gematria and you can say he invented the Isisian Code he explores at length. I think the ancient Kelts and DNN including Isis and Osiris developed many ways to manifest reality including all alphabets. They became known as Phoenicians which I have amply proven in many threads (Ogham and Aymara included). This 'manifesting of reality' takes time and is like the alchemical tincture, insidious and undetectable after established inside your mind or our collective soul. Here are a few words from The Fetch as Dennis is sometimes called.

    "The Roman numbering system, like much of Greco-Roman culture, has survived and prospered through two millennia. The very survival of the Roman numbering system hints at a larger necessity: the survival of the Roman numbering system is integral to the larger Letter-Number system of the Western Illuminati. Without the mathematical values of the Roman numbering system, a larger, composite philosophy within Western occult constructions could not be assembled into a composite whole.

    Within the Roman numbering systems holds adumbration's of a larger truth. Thus there is a necessity to preserve the Roman numbering system precisely because within the Roman numbering system lay hidden key details to a larger luminous system. This luminous philosophical system lies, further, beyond the reach of any single cultural perception.

    It was the Greek's via Pythagoras, and later, the Romans, who utilized and taught the idea of "letters as numbers". The idea that "letters and numbers are as one, inseparable" remains at the very core of the Illuminatus, or Qaballistic, system. It was the later Hebrews would morph Pythagorean ideas on meta-numerics into their "Torah" and ideas of "Kabballah".

    Clearly, one of the initial, and primary (Qaballistic) codes based on Letters/Numbers was the Roman (and Greek) numbering system(s).

    The preservation of this core Letter/Number philosophical codes would be necessary and, so, like silent sentinels from the past, Roman numbering may to this day be found gracing the facades of architecture, books, coins, as well as being prominently displayed in the modern era in the Arts in the form of "film"."


    Noam Chomsky's contributions to society are vast and varied. But when I am reminded about his linguistics expertise I still cringe. Neuro Psycho-Linguistics has been used by the CIA and military psy-ops and I suspect it has been incorporated into the work of Persinger and his DIA backed mind control.

    But this article has interest in trying to ascertain why academics are so infantile in seeing animals have languages and humans never were less than an animal. Animals use sign and body language as well as clicking noises or other complex and proven means to communicate. You can hear me discuss the matter with Jack Landham on a link here. But when they say language requires certain phenotypes and defined syntax I ask whether that improved communication and conscious wisdom acquisition. I too could use jargon and avoid real discourse.

    "The evolution of the faculty of language largely remains an enigma. In this essay, we ask why. Language's evolutionary analysis is complicated because it has no equivalent in any nonhuman species. There is also no consensus regarding the essential nature of the language “phenotype.” According to the “Strong Minimalist Thesis,” the key distinguishing feature of language (and what evolutionary theory must explain) is hierarchical syntactic structure. The faculty of language is likely to have emerged quite recently in evolutionary terms, some 70,000–100,000 years ago, and does not seem to have undergone modification since then, though individual languages do of course change over time, operating within this basic framework. The recent emergence of language and its stability are both consistent with the Strong Minimalist Thesis, which has at its core a single repeatable operation that takes exactly two syntactic elements a and b and assembles them to form the set {a, b}."

    Before language, communication existed through ESP, stelae, and sign languages as well as clicking noises and the ways of language animals use and we are just beginning to learn.

    But there are exterior though connected forms like our chakras within (7) and without (5) that are memetically mimed and awaiting to influence our plastic potential evolution. Or is that an entirely too unthought - full thing to say?
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    Icons, relics, artistic representations of the Heavenly Host, crosses and people dangling on them, blackboards and pulpits are symbols and hypnotic triggers. I have it on the authority of hypnotic stage performers who I have quoted as well as a United Church minister who married some friends of mine, he is an unusual member of this ecclesiasty. All of those things are symbolic and triggers for hypnotic transfer of information or NLP (NPL or whatever). Christianity has more gods than any other religion even if you think Laddio, Daddio and Spook are supreme deities that differ from others which Christianity stole those concepts from.

    Many people say archetypes or symbols have little application in their thought processes. They think they came to believe what they believe through some great intellectual process unique to themself I guess. Some will say they got it all from God or another lie and fraud. Those people need serious introspection if not incarceration.

    "Memetics is the study of ideas and concepts viewed as "living" organisms, capable of reproduction and evolution in an "Ideosphere" (similar to the Biosphere) consisting of the collective of human minds. Memes reproduce by spreading to new hosts, who will spread them further (typical examples are jokes, catchphrases or politicial ideas).

    At present memetics is somewhat controversial. Partly this is due to misunderstandings about what it means, leading to claims that it excludes human free will, creativity and progress, and that it is bad science. This will likely change in time, as the field matures."

    The Phoenician or Irish Cultural Age (according to Masonic linguist Conor MacDari) language schools understood the magic of words and symbols better than we do today. The Phoenicians (trans. followers of the Irish King Finn and his Fianna) are the mythological Atlanteans and much more from myth is attributable to them. The Father of Biblical Archaeology says the Bible is a Phoenician literary legacy. All the languages of the Mediterranean came from the Phoenicians and I draw a connection to Peru and other places in the thread Ogham and Aymara. The Red-Headed League of Megalith Builders are Phoenicians and it now seems possible that the DNN (Sidhe) or Ainu did genetic interbreeding with Denisovan Man and Neanderthal to make those red-heads.

    In this site and link you will see how the myth begins and more evidence of what I say.

    "THE ISLAND OF ATLANTIS was a mythical realm of the far West which was sunk beneath the ocean by the gods to punish the people for their immorality.

    The name "Atlanteans" was also given by the Greeks to the Phoenician colonies along the Barbary Coast of North Africa (i.e. around Mount Atlas). Diodorus Siculus describes their Titan-mythology and wars with the Libyan Amazones. Plato may have the same nation in mind, since he names the second Atlantian king Gadeiros after a famous Phoenician colony near the Straits of Gibraltar."

    Mottos are powerful communicators and memory aides. I could say brainwashing triggers and memes. The motto of all governing bodies and ecclesiasties should be 'say one thing, do the other'. In the lobby of the CIA you have what some say is their motto, I say it is more than that. It is a shared lie showing earlier liars as what they are. Here is a brief descriptive note about that saying, You can look into the Dulles and Bush family Skull and Bones Christians if you wish.

    "and a bas-relief of Allen Dulles, who was CIA Director for nine years.

    Etched into the wall of the original building's main lobby is a biblical verse which also characterizes the intelligence mission in a free society. It reads:

    ""And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.""
    John VIII-XXXII "
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    Is ESP an important point to be proven if we are to see ancient humans in a different light. Many humans had no speech lobes including Neanderthals who developed speech lobes through intermarriage around 150,000 years ago (despite what some journalists say who don't do research and accept whatever a distinguished group says as Gospel).

    Not that I regard a word transmission as important as a thought which words often cannot express.

    Balancing chhi or qi can cause food to be metabolized properly and more efficiently. It activates chakras in valuable ways which our doctors seem unable to understand - other than thousands of them who support Patch Adams. Norman Cousins cured himself of a life-threatening illness. If you look it up you will see it identified and yet the Cancer Society says it was unknown. Laughter is a worthwhile healing helper and they do acknowledge it has a long history. Of course, people are smart enough to know when they feel better and that has been true since we were animals - just look at your diggie! But I remember reading Norman talking about more than just the release of hormones while he was afflicted. Because we (science) don't understand how it happens does that mean it isn't happening?

    I sincerely hope this link will be accessible for you. It takes a spiritual journey into Kaballah and the southern tradition or Tree of Life. Numerous healers are saying great things about it and I see the Mudras (Mutras in another language) are there - which I have helped people use (Like Gurdjieff) to balance their hemispheres and combat depression, schizophrenia and ADHD etc.

    Bioprinting of eyes by 2027 is just the tip of the iceberg in human "enhancement" facing our children and society's planners. You will see Google glasses are part of the way Futurescape explains the melding of our minds to their purposes associated with controlling the World Mind. You can be absolutely certain Ray Kurzweil as Google's science guy knows more about it than anyone you will meet.

    Kurzweil was on the convention circuit of speakers in 2001 saying things would happen by 2015 rather than 2035 as Bill Joy said would be the time for truly sentient self-replicating robots. Here is more proof that Kurzweil was correct. In fact this takes us way further than what was being discussed then.

    But even though Einstein was right about the human mind having limits - soon these limits will be enhanced and possibly even removed through the use of technology combining consciousness and machines. It is even possible the machines will have a soul which might be part of the whole idea or design of what makes consciousness exist.

    Much of the Bell curve in technology which powers the transformations taking place (Including Futurescape's presentation of what is happening with the collective mind or World Mind) all depends on further advances in computing speed. Quantum computing will probably make artificial intelligence as fast as the human mind in a small space of machine use - and much greater in uses where there is no cranial limit. It has been used in the huge displays at sports arenas for over a decade, you might also know about the military letting out contracts (Mr. Everitt) in 2000.

    "Quantum computing is often considered one of the most logical successors to traditional computing. If pulled off, it could spur innovation across many fields, from sorting through tremendous Big Data stores of unstructured information — which will be key in making discoveries — to designing super materials, new encryption methods, and drug compounds without trial-and-error lab testing.

    For all of this to happen, though, someone has to build a working quantum computer. And that hasn’t happened yet, arguably aside from that giant (and controversial) D-Wave machine. We’re a big step closer now, though. IBM researchers, for the first time, have figured out how to detect and measure both bit-flip and phase-flip quantum errors simultaneously. They also outlined a new, square quantum bit circuit design that could scale to much larger dimensions."
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    Learning code is not easy but you should be able to see that Fetch is not inventing code. His sources include many Masonic authors like Manly Hall and what you will see in the following link. All you really need to know is that you are influenced by these codes, in how you think and how you think you do not think.

    "The concept of the 'code' is fundamental in semiotics. Whilst Saussure dealt only with the overall code of language, he did of course stress that signs are not meaningful in isolation, but only when they are interpreted in relation to each other. It was another linguistic structuralist, Roman Jakobson, who emphasized that the production and interpretation of texts depends upon the existence of codes or conventions for communication (Jakobson 1971). Since the meaning of a sign depends on the code within which it is situated, codes provide a framework within which signs make sense. Indeed, we cannot grant something the status of a sign if it does not function within a code. Furthermore, if the relationship between a signifier and its signified is relatively arbitrary, then it is clear that interpreting the conventional meaning of signs requires familiarity with appropriate sets of conventions. Reading a text involves relating it to relevant 'codes'. Even an indexical and iconic sign such as a photograph involves a translation from three dimensions into two, and anthropologists have often reported the initial difficulties experienced by people in primal tribes in making sense of photographs and films (Deregowski 1980), whilst historians note that even in recent times the first instant snapshots confounded Western viewers because they were not accustomed to arrested images of transient movements and needed to go through a process of cultural habituation or training (Gombrich 1982, 100, 273). As Elizabeth Chaplin puts it, 'photography introduced a new way of seeing which had to be learned before it was rendered invisible' (Chaplin 1994, 179). What human beings see does not resemble a sequence of rectangular frames, and camerawork and editing conventions are not direct replications of the way in which we see the everyday world. When we look at things around us in everyday life we gain a sense of depth from our binocular vision, by rotating our head or by moving in relation to what we are looking at. To get a clearer view we can adjust the focus of our eyes. But for making sense of depth when we look at a photograph none of this helps. We have to decode the cues. Semioticians argue that, although exposure over time leads 'visual language' to seem 'natural', we need to learn how to 'read' even visual and audio-visual texts (though see Messaris 1982 and 1994 for a critique of this stance). Any Westerners who feel somehow superior to those primal tribesfolk who experience initial difficulties with photography and film should consider what sense they themselves might make of unfamiliar artefacts - such as Oriental lithographs or algebraic equations. The conventions of such forms need to be learned before we can make sense of them.

    Some theorists argue that even our perception of the everyday world around us involves codes. Fredric Jameson declares that 'all perceptual systems are already languages in their own right' (Jameson 1972, 152). As Derrida would put it, perception is always already representation. 'Perception depends on coding the world into iconic signs that can re-present it within our mind. The force of the apparent identity is enormous, however. We think that it is the world itself we see in our "mind's eye", rather than a coded picture of it' (Nichols 1981, 11-12). According to the Gestalt psychologists - notably Max Wertheimer (1880-1943), Wolfgang Köhler (1887-1967) and Kurt Koffka (1886-1941) - there are certain universal features in human visual perception which in semiotic terms can be seen as constituting a perceptual code. We owe the concept of 'figure' and 'ground' in perception to this group of psychologists. Confronted by a visual image, we seem to need to separate a dominant shape (a 'figure' with a definite contour) from what our current concerns relegate to 'background' (or 'ground'). An illustration of this is the famous ambiguous figure devised by the Danish psychologist Edgar Rubin."

    You are being affected whether you know it or not.

    Psycholinguistic Programming - Business Websites

    Psycholinguistics is the study of the psychological and neurobiological ... Modern research makes use of biology, neuroscience, cognitive science, linguistics, and ... techniques developed by the CIA and other leading psycholinguistic experts.
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    As you read this remember what I dealt with in the Bill Gates, Elon Musk thread and Futurescape's documentation of God Helmets and even being able to broadcast directly to enough people to affect the World Mind without any visible means or implants.

    "It was still the 1970s, and the Human Potential Movement was in full swing—and NLP was the new darling. Immediately building a publishing, speaking and training empire, by 1980 Bandler had made over $800,000 from his creation—he was even being called on to train corporate leaders, the army and the CIA. Self-help gurus like Tony Robbins used NLP techniques to become millionaires in the 1980s (Robbins now has an estimated net worth of $480 million). By the middle of the decade, NLP was such big business that lawsuits and wars had erupted over who had the rights to teach it, or even to use the term “NLP.”

    But by that time, Bandler had bigger problems than copyright disputes: he was on trial for the alleged murder of prostitute Corine Christensen in November 1986. The prosecution claimed that Bandler had shot Christensen, 34, point-blank in the face with a .357 Magnum in a drug deal gone bad. According to the press at the time, Bandler had discovered an even better way to get people to like him than NLP—cocaine—and become embroiled in a far darker game, even, than mind control. A much-recommended investigation into the case published by Mother Jones in 1989 opens with these chilling lines:

    In the morning Corine Christensen last snorted cocaine, she found herself, straw in hand, looking down the barrel of a .357 Magnum revolver. When the gun exploded, momentarily piercing the autumn stillness, it sent a single bullet on a diagonal path through her left nostril and into her brain.

    Christensen slumped over her round oak dining table, bleeding onto its glass top, a loose-leaf notebook, and a slip of yellow memo paper on which she had scrawled, in red ink, DON’T KILL US ALL. Choking, she spit blood onto a wine goblet, a tequila bottle, and the shirt of the man who would be accused of her murder, then slid sideways off the chair and fell on her back. Within minutes she lay still.

    As Christensen lay dying, two men left her rented town house in a working-class section of Santa Cruz, California. One was her former boyfriend, James Marino, an admitted cocaine dealer and convicted burglar. The other, Richard Bandler, was known internationally as the cofounder of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), a controversial approach to psychology and communication. About 12 hours later, on the evening of November 3, 1986, Richard Bandler was arrested and charged with the murder.

    Bandler’s defense was, simply, that Marino had killed Christensen, not him. Many at the time alleged he used NLP techniques on the stand to escape conviction. Yet Bandler was also alleged to actually use a gun in NLP sessions in order to produce dramatic psychological changes in clients—a technique that was later mirrored by Hollywood in the movie Fight Club, in which Brad Pitt’s character pulls a gun on a gas station attendant and threatens to kill him if he doesn’t pursue his dreams in life. That was, many said, Bandler’s MO.

    Whatever the truth of the matter, Bandler was indeed let off, and the story was quickly buried—I’ve never spoken to a student of NLP who’s ever heard of the murder case, I’ll note, and I’ve spoken to a lot. The case hardly impeded the growing popularity of NLP, however, which was now big business, working its way not only into the toolkit of psychotherapists but also into nearly every corner of the political and advertising worlds, having grown far beyond the single personage of Richard Bandler, though he continued (and continues) to command outrageous prices for NLP trainings throughout the world."

    There are many Occupy Wall Street and Tea Party types with no real plan except to enjoy meeting and greeting fellow concerned citizens. Here is an insightful point of view to consider. He recognizes how easily political games distort the actual meaning of words like "majority".
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    "Whether or not it is clear to you, the universe is unfolding as it should..." Desiderata

    But there are ways your control of every part of your existence are formed and you know so little about them. This is especially true of you fear things you do not understand. (Including even yourself or SELF.) One of the major tools forming people today is games. And when I saw Lucis Trust (Luciferians) and Damanhur (Alchemists) working on those games and developing ways to inculcate new thinking through them (Later Harry Potter took the stage.) I was happy and concerned at the same time. Isaac Bonewitz is an OK occultist and his following work is worth reading. In it you will find words have much power.

    Manly Hall has given many learned people a lot to think about and yet it would appear most academics involved in linguistics have little or no awareness of his excellent scholarship. We need to crack all codes in symbology before we can honestly say we know what technology and wisdom the ancients had. The language of the birds or BRDs is one of the most ancient systems which I think evolved into the Hermetic Green Languages used by the likes of Goethe (Founder of a Jesuit short term Illuminized group most people ramble on about as if it is all there was.), Thomas Carlyle in Sartor Restartus, Jonathan Swift and many more. In my work on Shakespeare I uncovered Francis Bacon using code to claim the works of his friend William whose work he published. It took about 50 years for some people to decipher it and now there are many who think it means Bacon wrote Shakespeare. Such is the way of ignorant ego among pretenders to knowledge. As Hugo knew, Shakespeare also wrote in hermetic code.

    "The arcana of the ancient Mysteries were never revealed to the profane except through the media of symbols. Symbolism fulfilled the dual office of concealing the sacred truths from the uninitiated and revealing them to those qualified to understand the symbols. Forms are the symbols of formless divine principles; symbolism is the language of Nature. With reverence the wise pierce the veil and with clearer vision contemplate the reality; but the ignorant, unable to distinguish between the false and the true, behold a universe of symbols. It may well be said of Nature--the Great Mother--that she is ever tracing strange characters upon the surface of things, but only to her eldest and wisest sons as a reward for their faith and devotion does she reveal the cryptic alphabet which is the key to the import of these tracings.

    The temples of the ancient Mysteries evolved their own sacred languages, known only to their initiates and never spoken save in the sanctuary. The illumined priests considered it sacrilege to discuss the sacred truths of the higher worlds or the divine verities of eternal Nature in the same tongue as that used by the vulgar for wrangling and dissension. A sacred science must needs be couched in a sacred language. Secret alphabets also were invented, and whenever the secrets of the wise were committed to writing, characters meaningless to the uninformed were employed. Such forms of writing were called sacred or Hermetic alphabets. Some--such as the famous angelic writing--are still retained in the higher degrees of Masonry.

    Secret alphabets were not entirely satisfactory, however, for although they rendered unintelligible the true nature of the writings, their very presence disclosed the fact of concealed information--which the priests also sought to conceal. Through patience or persecution, the keys to these alphabets were eventually acquired and the contents of the documents revealed to the unworthy. This necessitated employment of more subtle methods for concealing the divine truths. The result was the appearance of cryptic systems of writing designed to conceal the presence of both the message and the cryptogram. Having thus devised a method of transmitting their secrets to posterity, the illuminati encouraged the circulation of certain documents specially prepared through incorporating into them ciphers containing the deepest secrets of mysticism and philosophy. Thus medieval philosophers disseminated their theories throughout Europe without evoking suspicion, since volumes containing these cryptograms could be subjected to the closest scrutiny without revealing the presence of the hidden message."

    In contrast to our material focused society we have many people seeking wisdom rather than mere ego gratification.

    "Buddha Eyes look at us from all the Tibetan Stupas in Nepal gazing in the four directions to symbolize the all-knowing Buddha.

    Between the Buddha's eyes there is the Nepali character for the number 1, symbolizing unity of all things and the Buddha’s all-seeing third eye.

    According to Buddhism all beings have the Buddha nature. We all have within us the seed of purity that is to be transformed and developed into Buddhahood."
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    Indeed this is very interesting. Brainwashing is part of all alphabets and Gematria like my friend The Fetch's Isisian Code goes into great detail. What makes this important is the Himba are not exposed to memes or secret societal language developers (I guess) like NLP or NPL.

    "All the squares are identical but one. If I asked you to point out which one, would you be able to?

    For most of us, we'd probably struggle to spot the one square that is a slightly different shade of green. And even if we did, it may take us a lot of time and concentration.

    But for members of a northern Namibian tribe called the Himba, spotting the square that was the "odd one out" was pretty straight forward. The reason why it was so easy for them is because of the Himba language has far more words distinguishing different shades of green than we do in English.

    But here's where things get interesting. The scientist doing this study, then showed the Himba people this pic.

    Can you see the blue square?


    If I asked you to point out the one thing that stands out in this picture, you'd notice the blue square immediately. It seems obvious enough on the pic in the television above.

    But for the people of the Himba tribe in northern Namibia, it's not that obvious at all.

    Why? Because in their language, there is no word to describe the colour "blue." So when this image was presented to them, many simply couldn't point out the blue square.

    Even though it's glaringly obvious to English speakers who get the word "blue."

    So it begs the question...

    Can you see something if you don't have a word for it?

    And are there other aspects in life that we're completely unaware of - simply because we have yet to come up with a word for it?

    In this video I explore this idea in a lot more detail.

    And I give a word to describe the patterns and beliefs that hold us back in life.

    I coined a term to describe these patterns...

    ...And I reveal it in my next video >>

    Be Extraordinary,

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    I guess I was wrong about secret societies for the Hemba, and yet maybe they had other ritual focal points to affect their people and maintain power. I do know about color blindness enough to say it is epigenetically alterable.

    "Bugabo had particular importance during the early decades of the colonial period, when, at least in the minds of certain Belgian missionaries and administrators, it became a focus for anti-European and protonationalist sentiment among Congolese.

    Bugabo as an identifiable ritual complex seems to have begun sometime in the last decades of the nineteenth century (Colle 1913: 601).

    Its elemental metaphors and basic practices are undoubtedly much older, however, and from a twenty-first-century remove, it is difficult to ascertain the degree to which the integrity of Bugabo as a particular society was an on-the-ground reality, and to what degree it was a colonial invention. Pol Pierre Gossiaux (1990, FN 13) suggests that Bugabo was a collective term referring to “several initiatory societies” rather than a single one. Did these multiple Bugabos form a nexus, or did a more basic paradigm exist among groups without particular connections, as a set of beliefs and practices that varied from one identity group to another and over time? As Daniel Biebuyck (1981: 23) aptly notes, the “synthesizing tendencies” of peoples in southeastern Congo “frequently make it possible for elements of disparate cults to be brought together locally into a new and complex system.”

    In other words, representational forms are begged, borrowed, imitated, stolen,invented, cast off, and rediscovered. Such bricolage, as Claude Lévi-Strauss 3 Despite the controversy of such terms, I shall use the word “magic” to translate bwanga, dawa, and other local terms that refer to the “science of the concrete”

    (Lévi-Strauss 1966) through which people of southeastern DRC exploited their world during the colonial period—as they most certainly still do. I shall also use the term “sorcery” (bundozi or bundogi in local dialects, ulozi in Swahili) with reference to the application of magic to achieve fell deeds, while asserting that ulozi can also be very positive in its intentions and accomplishments, and refers to a far broader ontology than the word “sorcery” implies in English"

    And you can learn a lot from Claude Levi-Strauss, he is not in the academic or hermetic league with Mircae Eliade but he is worth a look.
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    The above post lead me to this.

    The aten disc you see at the end of a staff when Indy goes into the well of souls is a magnifier of the light from the sun and creates fire among other things.

    Cy=eye of the cat? The aten disc and eye sigil with a dot in the middle is no eye at all. Deeper one gets to I and O. The IO Torus and binary math which clicking noises by animals like porpoises and Orangs use. My Ogham mentor told me the Druids in County Cork of the mid-19th Century gave Georges Boule his code upon which our modern computers are based.

    Pher = fur but deeper yet it is fire, the primary alchemical reducing agent to create "one" - ness or the Universal Harmonic of Light back to Heliopolitan or sun-worship which Thomas Paine told us Masonry is based on in his posthumous book. He said "Masonry is derived from the sun-worship of Druids." It is at some simplistic level also seen as son-worship. But at-one-ment is the goal.

    The deciphering of an 250 year old manuscript took researchers deep into the bowels of freedom but not past that PHRE-dom to oneness which 'fire' creates.

    "Hundreds of thousands of Europeans belonged to secret societies in the 18th century, Önnerfors explained to Megyesi; in Sweden alone, there were more than a hundred orders. Though they were clandestine, they were often remarkably inclusive. Many welcomed noblemen and merchants alike—a rare egalitarian practice in an era of strict social hierarchies. That made the orders dangerous to the state. They also frequently didn’t care about their adherents’ Christian denomination, making these orders—especially the biggest of them, Freemasonry—an implicit threat to the authority of the Catholic Church. In 1738 Pope Clement XII forbade all Catholics from joining a Masonic lodge. Others implied that the male-only groups might be hotbeds of sodomy. Not long after, rumors started that members of these orders actually worshipped the devil.

    These societies were the incubators of democracy, modern science, and ecumenical religion. They elected their own leaders and drew up constitutions to govern their operations. It wasn’t an accident that Voltaire, George Washington, and Ben Franklin were all active members. And just like today’s networked radicals, much of their power was wrapped up in their ability to stay anonymous and keep their communications secret.

    After reading the Oculists’ cipher, Önnerfors suggested that it described one of the more extreme groups. Forget the implicit threats to the state or church. In part of the Copiale, there’s explicit talk about slaying the tyrannical “three-headed monster” who “deprive[s] man of his natural freedom.” There’s even a call for a “general revolt.” Remember, Önnerfors told the code-breakers, this book was written in the 1740s—30 years before the Declaration of Independence. “To someone at the time,” he added, “this would be like reading a manifesto from a terrorist organization.”

    To Önnerfors, decoding the Copiale was a significant achievement. Traditionally, historians have just ignored documents like this, because they don’t have the tools to make sense of them. That’s why the Oculists passed as early surgeons for so long. But there are scores of these enciphered documents—many in Lund alone. Some concern new rites of a fraternal order; others could detail political movements. There’s no way to tell for sure, because they’re cryptologically sealed. There’s a whole secret history of the West waiting to be told. There are so many more codes....

    Eventually we turned to the last items in the Oculist trove: nine copies of a four-page document written in a mixture of old German, Latin, and the Copiale’s coded script. The message was more or less identical in every set. “Die Algebra,” it said at the top of page one, a primer on the “old way of calculating.” Rows of cipher letters lay beneath. The document seemed to add them up as if they were numbers. The third page mentioned the Jewish Cabala—the mystical system in which meaning is derived from the numerical value of letters.

    It would appear that the Copiale symbols don’t represent just words and letters, they stand for numbers too. But if they do, Knight, Megyesi, and Schaefer haven’t been able to tease out the meaning. The Oculist master apparently understood these coded documents in a way that today’s interpreters do not. Despite years’ worth of attacks on their cipher, the Oculists’ secrets have not been pried loose, at least not fully. What they saw in their initiation chambers may never again be seen."

    David Koresh said he was the expert of experts when it came to the Keys of Solomon. Be that as it may, there is a lot about cyphers and codes which academics never study. http://psychicinvestigation.forumoti...tice-of-goetia

    Just as busy as the alchemists are the journalists and academics who refuse to learn anything about alchemy and get paid to lie about it. In this book you find a real scholar asking some important questions who learned a lot from Rulon who spent years researching the Voynich MS. I draw your attention to Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz who it appears was a Rosicrucian and maybe even an alchemist.
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    There are other ways of 'Manufacturing Consent' which is the title of a book by the modern Father of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. If you have known a salesperson you have been exposed to a few. There is the repetition of the person's name to build a sense of intimacy and trust, I always thought if what you had to convey required this when getting to know a person, it was a sad day indeed. Then there is getting a person to say yes to simple questions like "Your name is Smith?!" and doing it with enthusiasm. Being polite or politically correct devolves into such superficiality spreading throughout a community or large group. After a list of questions numbering over ten you start introducing your pitch.

    The pitch usually has a lot of expert opinion to speak about whether the opinion is that of an expert or not. Usually an expert is someone from over three hundred miles away and he has a briefcase - just kidding. That is true in convention speakers. Our legal system invokes expertise and creates blind justice as lawyers use all techniques and the jargon goes over the head of the jury. The following link takes you to the Rand Corporation and many articles of value. I have seen different uses of the Delphi Technique which builds consensus about the same way getting people to say yes, works. In committees, or bureaucracies these things are devilishly destructive of real thinking.

    As to the nature of Illuminati stealing or misappropriating symbols - garbage! The en-lightened ones created them long ago. They are still part of our society and they try to manage the world to become what it can be - better. Yes, they are often faced with difficult decisions because people will not study and bureaucrats or priesthoods are corrupt and worse.

    "It is also very interesting to note that the drawing of the Eye of Horus very much matches the cross section of the mid brain where the thalamus, the pineal and pituitary glands are situated. The pineal gland is often said to be the “third eye” and a centre of spirituality and of spiritual insight, which can be developed in a person.

    It’s as if the Eye of Horus could be a depiction of the thalamus as the eye ball with the corpus callosum the eye brow above and the medulla oblongata (brain stem) and the hypothalamus being the two markings below. If this is what they were drawing but calling it the Eye of Horus, does it suggest they considered the mid brain to be the seat of consciousness or even of divine consciousness or “Horus consciousness”? Horus being a sun god and symbolic of the universal Christ, a spiritual force which a suitably prepared person can merge with."
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    An excellent article from the above.

    "Why do We Believe What We Believe?

    Kris Notaro
    By Kris Notaro
    Ethical Technology

    Posted: Sep 22, 2010

    Why do people believe different paradigms and memes over others? At this point in time there are a number of theories that can be utilized to answer this question but they remain crude in nature.

    Several views suggest that brain regions and neurotransmitters are responsible for the valuing of one concept over another. According to modern neuroscience a few crucial neurotransmitters play a central role in mood and belief. They include dopamine, glutamate, norepinephrine, serotonin, and acetylcholine.(5)(7) For example, abnormal dopamine levels in particular can lead to schizophrenia which we can attribute to the unusual difficulty of people who already understand a certain paradigm of knowledge to believe in another. Brain regions and critical periods also play a role.(7)

    Figuring out why people believe in irrational concepts is a rather hard challenge. Homo sapiens are socially networked together, teaching each other stories that can be said to be false like the idea of God, concepts that are somewhat true like “treat others the way you want to be treated,” and paradigms that are said to be scientific theories like the theory of relativity. This network of telling stories about reality seems to resemble the very complex nature of the human brain.

    The question of meaning, purpose and existence can take on many forms. In our developed countries, however, the scientific method, critical thinking, and the notion of the theory of everything are our leading paradigms of knowledge. Things can work completely out of tune, but can also work as intended like a well put together orchestra. Science has replaced the idea of God for the skeptic and critical thinker. When modern rationality governs the human brain we find that God has no place in this orchestra.

    Nature versus nurture must play a role, because irrational memes/concepts propagate within cultures, they just don’t spring up from nature necessarily. However, it has been argued that our brains are hardwired to be gullible in the sense that they have been designed through evolution to believe in simplistic stories like the story of God.(2) Doxastic Voluntarism is a philosophical concept which states that people have voluntary control over what they believe in.(4) However, this can be argued against by a recent study of people with brain tumors who needed to have the tumors removed. The study showed that certain regions of the brain play a large role in spiritual belief.

    Dave Munge of SEED magazine writes about how the brain may be susceptible to religion because of survival benefits.

    “[It is argued] that cooperation is the key. Cooperation is clearly beneficial for human social groups in hunting, defense, child-rearing, and many other survival behaviors. Religion, they say, is a way of reinforcing the principles that join members of a group. Brembs points out that observing a religious ritual like a rain dance allows communities to identify loyal members and punish those who don’t seem to be contributing to the group.”

    If the above is correct it would explain why leading research points to areas of the brain that may be hardwired for spirituality. Research of the left inferior parietal lobule and the right angular gyrus that contained tumors revealed that after surgery, the patients were more apt to believe in out of body experiences and spiritual occurrences. The conclusion that can be drawn from this research suggests that these two brain regions play a role in body ownership and spirituality. Brain lesions in the left inferior parietal lobule and the right angular gyrus show us that even without voluntary beliefs in “God experiences,” the brain itself loses something vital for critical thinking. If patients then lose the ability to critically think of their new experiences as being false illusions brought on by brain damage, these findings become quite important. (1)(2)

    While nurture is a huge influence on the brain and the complexities that allow for irrational and rational beliefs, an understanding of neurons and neurotransmitters can help out. The Critical Period concept shows us that during certain periods of brain development, certain beliefs can take root. In order to undo these beliefs, the brain must use its plasticity. Memes and irrational concepts propagate within cultures because of the malleability that the brain allows. However, Doxastic Voluntarism shows us that mentally healthy people can in fact change their minds about beliefs in the supernatural. As people get older this plasticity is lessoned but still exists. It consists of making new neural connections and stronger synaptic bonds. (4)(7)
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