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    http://truth-zone.net/forum/anthropo...es-gnosis.html

    The above site has a rather complete dissertation on the cult of Gnostic Christians currently in vogue (It seems). There are Archons and hallucinations to meet the desires of any truly disturbed person who needs demons, worms and cults. There is even mention of the Urantia cult to make those spiritism junkies who refuse to think - happy.

    I have to admit it is a wonderful web of lies just like the Gospels I suspect were created by the same cadre of power-mongers and the opportunists galore who feed on and create fears amongst the general populace. How many denominations are there now - 22,000? Or do you count every storefront preacher raving and every born again speaking for g-d (anthropomorphed) as a denomination if he has a wife who agrees with him? Of course there are also the usual bigotries and prejudices to appeal to the truly ignorant as well. I liked the statement "Homosexual parents are like vegetarian butchers."

    How about this: "Gnostics who KNOW rather than seek wisdom - find ignorance is their soulmate."

    The meaning of God and the potential of your soul can come to you through Qabala. The following explains the cults surrounding a later version of Qabala more accurately than any I have seen. Does that make any of it correct or true? No, it does not. I regard Qabala as knowledge that was maintained by the bards or story-tellers; it began before writing and probably before spoken language.

    It does not matter a whole lot if I am right about it being that long ago, too much. What really matters is that Rome re-wrote everything they could not erase from the memory of people in Gnosticism, Christianity and history. Book burning only gets rid of paper, after all. They put themselves in positions of authority and blamed others including those they had created racial slurs and hatreds towards - for what they had done. Yes, the Gospels are Roman propaganda. And you can see they did the same thing to Kabbalah in this quote.

    "The word Qabalah (lit. receiving, also "welcoming of God") alludes to a dynamic state of direct communication and mystical union of the individual soul with the Divine. In that sense, it is synonymous with the Sanskrit word Yoga (lit. union with or absorption in the Divine). The word "Qabalah" is often seen transliterated as "Kabbalah" or "Cabala." However, the word begins with a Qof, and not a Kaf, and only has one Beyt, not two. Hence, the Work of the Chariot uses the spelling "Qabalah" in referring to the universal mystical spirituality of the Mystical Qabalah. The spelling "Kabbalah" is generally used to designate the religious-based Jewish Kabbalah of the Pharisaic Rabbinical tradition. The spelling "Cabala" is generally used to designate the Christian Cabala that evolved to portray elements of Roman Catholic dogma as the fulfillment of the Jewish Kabbalah."[/

    The letter "h" is a phonetic sound known as an aspirant and did not exist in most alphabets until recent times.

    "The universal mystical spirituality of the children of Abraham is a robust, precious, and little known heritage upon which the fabric of the Judaic, Christian, Islamic, and perhaps even the Tantric religions are woven. In this book, that heritage is called the Mystical Qabalah."

    Few who profess to know God will ever come close to s/h/it.

    http://www.workofthechariot.com/Text...tsTemples.html

    Myths abound and origins are never truly certain.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/giants/giants.htm

    The Gnostic Library people I have quoted extensively say the next book is most secret or for the people who are most enlightened. You will see why it makes many poor Christians quiver. http://forum.world-mysteries.com/thr...n-s-Apocryphon
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    It would not surprise me if ancient shamans over two million years ago tapped in to knowledge which any person today would give their total wealth to gain. So Gnosis is that old at a minimum.

    One of the confusing things for authors who write about the Essenes or Therapeutae is the interest they had in celibacy. Once you find a true co-creator you will have much more pleasure and wisdom. I feel very confidant that Pythagoras the Druid experienced this in his life, probably more than once. This is a good thing if you want true sexual and total union of the Soul or Bhakti. The Reality Matrix e-book says these words.

    "Ideally a couple will come together and form a "sacred union" using the alchemical power of sex ('The Secret Gate to Eden') to help each other with the mutual goal of becoming more conscious. Then an individuated couple may go on to co-create a new child and these will be the children of the golden age bringing a new enlightened consciousness to Earth (associated with the inter- generational inheritance of consciousness on a collective level). Celibacy can be a natural part of the process of individuation or reformation of the psyche however when it becomes part of a strict moral code or religious teaching which is enforced for a lifetime it is usually an attempt to maintain intrapsychic separation from an increasingly negative collective unconscious and was historically more successful in the past.

    It is important for the collective unconscious to understand how sex relates to the flow of psychic energy, symmetry, and to conscious threshold within people otherwise it becomes a negative and used for control and to lower the collective consciousness and vibratory frequency.

    Akiane: child prodigy - http://youtu.be/jQlZv29E4_0

    How to initiate the process of individuation

    The whole process centers around connecting the conscious and unconscious. Develop a healthy ego, free yourself from rigid dogmatic thinking, practice regular meditation and connect with Gaia, avoid self destructive behaviors, self-education, mandalas, use active imagination, dream journaling, view / create art, sacred geometry, initiation ceremonies and immerse yourself in the work of others who have successfully individuated like Leonardo da Vinci, Einstein, Jung, Anastasia, Wingmakers, and indigenous cultures.

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    T. McKenna, his brother, Robert Anton Wilson, T. Leary and others have done a deep dive off the deep end at the deoxy site. That does not mean there is no value in what every words they say means. It might mean they do not convey the true meaning or we do not grasp it. In the case of PK Dick (their bud) I think his focus on the second century Gnostics is a bad focus to even call Gnostic. They were at war with Rome and the Caliphate over knowledge they hid some of, and which was only found last century. Some of them sold out to Romanism that was being created to replace what their Essene brothers including the family of Jesus (Yeshua, Thomas and James not long before, and books found at Dag or Nag Hammadi) were studying. Anywho, you can decide if Dick is blowing s---- or s---. I say some sects went Roman, some went rogue and some just stayed the course and continued to gain insight through attunement or at - one -ment.

    "The Ten Major Principles of the Gnostic Revelation

    From Exegesis, by Philip K. Dick
    The Gnostic Christians of the second century believed that only a special revelation of knowledge rather than faith could save a person. The contents of this revelation could not be received empirically or derived a priori. They considered this special gnosis so valuable that it must be kept secret. Here are the ten major principles of the gnostic revelation: 1.The creator of this world is demented.
    2.The world is not as it appears, in order to hide the evil in it, a delusive veil obscuring it and the deranged deity.
    3.There is another, better realm of God, and all our efforts are to be directed toward a.returning there
    b.bringing it here

    4.Our actual lives stretch thousands of years back, and we can be made to remember our origin in the stars.
    5.Each of us has a divine counterpart unfallen who can reach a hand down to us to awaken us. This other personality is the authentic waking self; the one we have now is asleep and minor. We are in fact asleep, and in the hands of a dangerous magician disguised as a good god, the deranged creator deity. The bleakness, the evil and pain in this world, the fact that it is a deterministic prison controlled by the demented creator causes us willingly to split with the reality principle early in life, and so to speak willingly fall asleep in delusion.
    6.You can pass from the delusional prison world into the peaceful kingdom if the True Good God places you under His grace and allows you to see reality through His eyes.
    7.Christ gave, rather than received, revelation; he taught his followers how to enter the kingdom while still alive, where other mystery religions only bring about amnesis: knowledge of it at the "other time" in "the other realm," not here. He causes it to come here, and is the living agency to the Sole Good God (i.e. the Logos).
    8.Probably the real, secret Christian church still exists, long underground, with the living Corpus Christi as its head or ruler, the members absorbed into it. Through participation in it they probably have vast, seemingly magical powers.
    9.The division into "two times" (good and evil) and "two realms" (good and evil) will abruptly end with victory for the good time here, as the presently invisible kingdom separates and becomes visible. We cannot know the date.
    10.During this time period we are on the sifting bridge being judged according to which power we give allegiance to, the deranged creator demiurge of this world or the One Good God and his kingdom, whom we know through Christ.

    To know these ten principles of Gnostic Christianity is to court disaster.
    (now he tells us?) "
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    A link to a book addressing Elias Ashmole also might offer some interesting insights to Gnosticism. The whole site has the beginnings of a Michigan State investigation of things related to the hermetic gnostic continuum. The title of the book indicates exactly what I think Gnosticism is derived from via Lake Urmin and earlier the Sidhe and DNN - the Magus like Simon Magus of the Gaedhils. And as you know I have written many books on them and their related Troubadours, Cathars and the Grail legends going back into the deep reaches of history now being uncovered in archaeology such as Dolni Vestonici and the work of Gimbutas or Wayland-Barber.

    "Tobias Churton: Magus: The Invisible Life of Elias Ashmole
    (Lichfield, UK, Signal Publishing, 2004). ISBN 0-9543309-2-7.

    Reviewed by Christopher McIntosh

    Bremen, Germany


    Admirers of Tobias Churton’s previous books, such as The Gnostics, The Golden Builders and The Gnostic Philosophy, will not be disappointed by his new biography of one of the most remarkable men England has ever produced: Elias Ashmole, founder member of the Royal Society, Windsor Herald, Astrologer to the King, Alchemist, Hermeticist, early Freemason, founder of the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford and a “mighty good man”, as his contemporary the antiquarian John Aubrey called him.

    Surprisingly this towering figure has had relatively few books devoted to him, the main previous one being C.H. Josten’s massive edition of Ashmole’s writings, published in five volumes by Oxford University Press in 1966, which Churton builds on and acknowledges as “the masterpiece of Ashmole studies”. Perhaps this scarcity of biographies is due to the difficulties of encompassing such a many-faceted figure, “a Renaissance man”, as Churton puts it, “in an era that was slip-sliding away from the limitless ambition of the Renaissance philosophy of human dignity”. Another reason may be a tendency in certain circles to denigrate Ashmole’s contribution to learning. “Ashmole ‘gets in the way’ of a neat classification of eras of knowledge. He is a Renaissance magus-type yet still a rational mathematician and founder member of the Royal Society. He is historically ‘inconvenient’.”

    It is clear from these quotes that the author passionately admires Ashmole and the world view that he represents. Churton also has certain things in common with his subject. Both went to Brasenose College, Oxford, and both grew up in Lichfield in Staffordshire – Ashmole was a generous patron of Lichfield’s great cathedral and managed to save part of its library from destruction by Cromwellian vandals during the Civil War. Churton believes that Ashmole has much to teach the present age, which he clearly regards as a decadent one and frequently says so in his eloquent, sometimes abrasive and often witty manner.

    “Ashmole would have borne an informed contempt for the ‘modern’ or its twisted offspring, the ‘post-modern’. Rather, we are all part of a living tree whose roots feed us vital sap from the past. That a thing was past did not mean that it ceased to be; rather the present and the future were utterly contingent upon the life that flowed through all time. The folly of man was to forget the reality that all that has been is. ‘It’ is in our eyes, our ears, our homes, our dreams, our aspirations, our blood. {And that blood is often San Graal}The memory required jerking from time to time – that was a task for the antiquarian. Nothing is dead unless it has been killed.”"


    http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeVII/ChurtonReview.htm

    I could place this observation in every thread and still have to place it in many posts. The issue is less a matter of how many Ph. D.'s we produce I think we should have more, but the courses he suggests should make up more than those focussed on paradigm methodology. Marks should go to those who ask new questions and challenge the teacher and fellow students to extend and expand their horizons and intuition.

    "Historical speculation, philosophical argument, literary criticism, case histories, biography, semantic and semiotic analysis, ethnography - all these and more ought to be admissible as ways of telling our stories, and the less concern about method, the better. One becomes fastidious about method only when one has no story to tell.

    ...The alternative is to remain a shrivelled pseudo-science, useless for everything
    except the assembly line production of PH.D.s.

    Neil Postman.
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