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    Haruspication and Extispicy

    It sounds pretty silly to expect to get information from the entrails of animals, doesn't it?

    Maybe not, because what they eat will affect their organs and we use such methods to determine environmental factors in science today. Then there was the old rabbit test for pregnancy.

    Here is how I see Palm reading and all the rest - energy from all sources affect each living thing and over time the effects are discernable. For example if you move your hand and develop muscles you will have hands which show it. The lines will also have differing depths compared to other people which will be observable and compared in books. Which organs or lines that show more of the effect of energy will give guidance. I recommend St. Germain's book used in Masonic coursework for a serious palm reader.

    They seem to think there is a big difference between Etruscans and Romans - maybe they can't read a map, but tell us about entrails, go figure.

    "From earliest times, human beings have been curious about the future. Divination evolved as a means of satisfying that curiosity and included the discovery of things hidden in the past, the present, or the future by the interpretation of signs, symbols, and portents. Some of these practices were quite bizarre by modern standards and one of these would be haruspication.

    Haruspication was a kind of divination that involved inspecting the entrails of an animal. The practice lent itself to a great deal of variation, depending on the exact organ or organs of the animal being examined by the seer. Thus haruspication is also known as haruspicy or hepatomancy, especially when the divination is based on the examination of liver for sign of what would happen in the future. According to this form of divination, animals sacrificed to please the gods would be cut open and their entrails examined by the seer, also known as haruspex in this case. He would inspect the organs like liver, intestines, stomach and spleen for shape, color and abnormalities and would then make prophecies according to his findings. Usually an organ which was of normal health and color would indicate a successful sacrifice while a diseased or abnormal organ would mean that the gods had not been pleased with the sacrifice and hence bad times were round the corner or the favor of the supplicant would be dismissed.


    Haruspication was one of the most commonly practiced forms of divination in ancient Rome but now it is believed that the practice goes back much further to around second millennium BC in the Near East where the ancient Hittites and Babylonians practiced rituals that comprised of studying animal entrails with the purpose of divining the future. However the Babylonians laid particular focus on the liver of the sacrificed animals which is more specifically the field of hepatomancy.

    They believed that the liver was the source of the blood and hence the basis of life itself. Thus the Mesopotamians deemed the liver of special sheep to be the ideal way of discovering the will of the gods. The priest, called a bār, was specially trained to interpret the "signs" of the liver. The liver was divided into sections with each section representing a particular deity. In fact the liver would even be copied into a stone tablet or into clay models so as to be able to study the specimen over longer periods of time. One such Babylonian clay model of a sheep's liver, is conserved in the British Museum, and dates between 2050 and 1750 BC. The model was used in Mesopotamian medicine as a way of studying patients and their diseases. This study was carried out by priests and seers who looked for in the organs of sacrificed animals, to tell them things about a patient’s illness. Wooden pegs were placed in the holes of the clay tablet to record features found in a sacrificed animal's liver. The priest or seer then used these features to predict the course of a patient's illness. The Nineveh library texts name more than a dozen liver-related terms which are ample evidence that Babylonian hepatoscopy existed well before the accounts of haruspicy in the Bible.

    The Etruscans were among the most common practitioners of haruspication and laid particular emphasis on the examination of the entrails of sheep for the purposes of divination. A bronze sculpture of a liver called the "Piacenza Liver" was discovered in 1877 near the town of Piacenza in northern Italy and which was estimated to date back 100 BC. The sculpture was found to have various markings as a way of showing the regions of the liver that were associated with the influence of various gods according to the divination practices of the time. In around 1900, a professor of anatomy, Ludwig Stieda, sought to compare this artifact with a Mesopotamian one dated to a millennium earlier. This connection as well as archeological evidence revealed that the practice of haruspication was introduced to the Etruscans through the Hittites. This could have been possible due to the origins of the Etruscans in Asia Minor where the influence of Hittite culture was significant. Among the Etruscans, the art of haruspication was taught in the Libri Tagetici, a collection of texts attributed to Tages, a prophetic figure from Etruscan mythology who was supposed to be a grandson of Jupiter and have laid down correct methods of ascertaining divine will concerning events of public interest which in turn formed the chief concerns of divination.

    Today however the art of divination by haruspication is mostly associated with the ancient Romans and the most famous example of this was the prophecy of the death of Julius Caesar which was supposed to have been made by a noted haruspex of the time, Spurinna. He had warned Caesar to beware of the Ides of March and based on the prophecy even Caesar’s wife Calphurnia had begged him not to go to the Senate on that fateful day. Another Roman emperor Claudius was believed to be a student of Etruscan culture and opened a college to preserve and improve their version of haruspication, which lasted until the reign of Theodosius I. In fact the practice of haruspication as a divinatory ritual seems to have flourished in all parts of the Roman Empire, evidence of which has been found in Bath, England where the base of a statue was inscribed to honor Memor who was supposed to be god in Roman haruspicy.

    Haruspication or haruspicy was actually part of a larger study of organs for the sake of divination, called extispicy. This form of divination observed the positioning of the organs and their shape in the bodies of the sacrificed animals in order to read omens for the future. There are many records of different cultures using the liver and spleen of various domestic and wild animals to foretell a various things ranging from weather conditions to political events. In fact, labyrinths composed of cobblestones in the northern countries are now considered to be a model of the intestines of the sacrificial animals. in these times haruspication is rarely performed because of the slaughtering of animals and examination of its entrails is offensive to modern sensibilities. however a bit of the earlier practice may have survived in the performance of ooscopy which substitutes an egg for the sacrificial animal and inspection of the opened egg for examination of the entrails, thereby drawing inferences about the future."


    http://www.futurescopes.com/haruspic...ntrails-animal

    Tages is mentioned and I connect the Etruscans with the people on the Tagus River or Tartessians - there could be a connection as there appears to be with a priest having the BR (without vowels) as we often discuss.
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    I regard this as more rip off mercenary abuse as is the case with Elizabeth Claire Prophet (Profit) in the St. Germain cult they are trying to build along with Niburu and many more atrocities of cultdom.

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    There was a Roman terracotta head found in Mexico scientifically dated and accepted to be from long before Columbus came although it might have been as old as the time of Yeshua the Chriost. It was considered a 99% archaeologic certainty and because it did not fit the story told in history it was shelved and laid around a Mexican Museum for decades. It still has some academics saying things like it must have floated ashore from a Roman ship blown off course. And yet even if a Roman ship came into the Caribbean so close that this would or could happen them it was well in sight of many big islands first, and such ships clearly could have made it in better weather. I do not often try to intuit what sense there is in such academic deceit - because it is so obvious.

    The reason I mention it, is we have proof of cults like the Vampires of Sarkeny Rend Rosicrucianism in Palenque with a white Prince per archaeology and now another find of a complex named after this vampire god Zotz. I also know the Mayan people were not into all the human sacrificing you see on TV, or academics like you to believe. No one really knows where such behavior began but I think this terracotta head in the area of the Aztecs ties in with many other evidences and I say Romans taught the Aztecs these rituals or at least lead them to do it more often, this is why (From Wikipedia).

    "Anthropomancy (from Greek anthropos (ανθροπος, man), and manteia (μαντεια, divination) is a method of divination by the entrails of dead or dying men or women, often virgin female children, through sacrifice.[citation needed] This practice was sometimes also called splanchomancy. In ancient Etruria and Rome, the usual variety of divination from entrails was haruspicy (performed by an haruspex), in which the sacrifice was an animal."

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