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    Abortion Blights

    Historical Footing:

    If we raise emotional issues such as curtailing the rights of every individual to harm and hinder the rights of the majority, are we eugenicists? When the world's smartest man promotes genetic testing to cull genetic problems from our families before the pain of certain events occur is he (Langan) a monster like Old Joe Kennedy or Hitler and even Margaret Sanger are sometimes portrayed?

    Failing being able to get people to stop doing what the Catholics have encouraged and no major religion has attempted to stop - unwanted mouths being fed by unable parents to be criminals who never had a chance at equal education - we have had two obvious historical alternatives.

    They appear to me, to have been worse than the removal of large segments of our population through war and de-population or genocides, and the creation of a caste system like the Brahmins did. You can separate the genocides into a separate alternative if you like.

    I am not going to address the matter of every fetus having some god-given right to exist as if the woman and society have no say in the matter. I do not consider those who bomb abortion clinics as evidence of anything more than insanity. If the individual has communities of support who can and will care for the child then I say the abortion should not be allowed. If you look into the history of orphanages, bastards and unwed mothers you find horrors including concentration camps and monastic debauchery beyond mere pedophilia and serial rapists.

    One of the things Chris Langan (the smartest man in the world) is promoting aligns with the social justice and feminism of Critical Theory and which the Hegelian Dialectical forces of social engineering are calling Cultural Marxism. He would like genetics to weed out bad medical and social outcomes which cost a woman all manner of pain (financial as well as emotional) unnecessarily. It is not eugenics as the boob from onemansblog asserts.

    I would go far further and insist on parents having taken multiple courses on parenting approaches. I would want existing families to address the Cycle of Violence so rampant in our many varied cultures. That would require a proactive Rainbow Coalition such as Jesse Jackson once promoted but it would have to be implemented with some haste due to burgeoning technological opportunities to implant new mind controls. The chances of a political person saying you have no right to force society to pay for your kids to be wild and crazy deviates like you are - is nil.

    But I can imagine a politician saying what George McGovern started to say - we need a society where people get a guarantee of security and basic wealth through a guaranteed minimum income or negative tax plan. We need to decrease government and managing people in prisons and on welfare or having tax corruption in the IRS and on Wall Street. J. K. Galbraith was a great economist who documented how society would improve it's GDP with fewer man hours of wasted work. The Club of Rome experts and Bucky Fuller knew these things our new technologies will allow - long ago. Instead of paying people to raise children on welfare we need to pay them only if they demonstrate a solid financial and emotional basis for the child's future.

    We get a result which is exactly what these attackers say they do not want when we do not insist upon thinking through a plan to stop runaway religions and instead attack feminism (thus support Makow and misogyny) or social justice. We get ignorance or dumbocracy!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYu6qhd88_M

    Planning for Peace:

    The founder of Planned Parenthood was Margaret Sanger who was preceded by Annie Besant and others who saw how seriously wrong our society had been since women were made chattel (Hammurabi) or made into slaves for insecure men and lechers who could buy them for an ox. It is still the case for most women in the world to a lesser degree than when Sanger began her passionate program to educate real people about real causes of childbirth other than the stork myth. Yes, she was called a pornographer for illustrating that is not how babies are conceived.

    Sanger spoke about a plan for peace, and knew what peace meant in homes where poverty was the real devil and women were beaten and abused for the crime of having been born into such conditions.

    Our schools still do not teach who made women into chattel and why.

    Vassar College was the first to allow women to compete in sports - read up on Margaret Sanger and the issues faced trying to get past those same issues now occurring in Sharia situations or with the Mississauga man who killed his pregnant wife when she was bearing him another girl. He did it while his two other daughters watched.

    It is no easy or obvious plan we need to make in order to get past the state of poverty which many peoples are in, due to colonialism and religious chicanery or worse. It was worse in the America of the 19th Century when eugenics was a major cause for many people. The elites like Old Joe Kennedy who supported eugenics were truly beasts, but some of those people had fewer moral issues to be certain.

    "“Plan for Peace” from Birth Control Review (April 1932, pp. 107-108)


    Article 1. The purpose of the American Baby Code shall be to provide for a better distribution of babies… and to protect society against the propagation and increase of the unfit.
    Article 4. No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child, and no man shall have the right to become a father, without a permit…
    Article 6. No permit for parenthood shall be valid for more than one birth.


    America Needs a Code for Babies,” 27 Mar 1934


    Give dysgenic groups [people with “bad genes”] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization.

    April 1932 Birth Control Review, pg. 108


    Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.

    Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.


    We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

    Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.


    A woman’s duty: To look the whole world in the face with a go-to-hell look in the eyes… to speak and act in defiance of convention.

    The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1


    [The most penetrating thinkers] are coming to see that a qualitative factor as opposed to a quantitative one is of primary importance in dealing with the great masses of humanity."

    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/11/1...rgaret-sanger/
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    Maybe I should have added Pedophiles and Priestly Rape to this sub-heading, but having to prove the strong correlation between extremist religious behavior and the Cycle of Violence just below their Armageddon prophecies is not my current quest. I really do not want to quote the Hadith which gives the incentive for 72 virgins or address genital disfigurement again either. I will assume most rational people know about these matters and the Boston or other court cases throughout the world of Catholicism with it's sick celibates and sicker cover-ups and proselytizing credos to increase the flock and shear them wherever they might be on the socio-economic ladder and hierarchy. But I do feel the need to point out the last Irish laundry prison for unwed mothers was closed only as recently as 1996, and many unmarked graves were found which might remind you of Hitler's concentration camps or the Black and Tan era promoted by Churchill. Yes, politics makes many strange bedfellows including those inside walls hiding their deviate religious practices. Those historical rituals are also not taught, and the Skull and Bones (Obscene Ritual, Communion and the Eucharist) or Vlad Dracul connections are seen as Hollywood hallucinatory imagination. There remains a need to separate Church and State. Please read The End of History and the Last Man confessions from a recent US Policy Dept. 'social engineer' who flatly states he and all other engineers or mind controllers use religion. OOPS! I am getting on my high horse and pounding my pulpit or proselytizing.

    Let us consider a simple spin doctor, religious and subtle spin about Sanger and some of her quotes on these matters.

    "Planned Parenthood hides behind a false memory of Sanger, and why, despite her extraordinarily prolific writing career, one rarely sees her quoted by Planned Parenthood leaders and apologists.


    The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.

    Woman and the New Race, ch. 6: “The Wickedness of Creating Large Families.” Here, Sanger argues that, because the conditions of large families tend to involve poverty and illness, it is better for everyone involved if a child’s life is snuffed out before he or she has a chance to pose difficulties to its family.


    [We should] apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring."

    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/11/1...rgaret-sanger/

    When I hear 'right to life' I think 'what kind of life' and how can Mexico and other nations address the quality of these lives when baby factories are so prolific. I remember Mother Teresa is being or just has been made a saint despite fleecing the world for billions of bucks and running hospitals with concentration camp conditions including a criminally proven pedophile assistant. Yes, I see those Christian Children's Fund or other's ads on TV with children drinking feces-ridden water. I have seen it first hand. I know the money goes to buy Bibles and Bible teachers more than it goes to the medicines these people need. I cringe to think about how the parents have to sit through Bible Study in order to get a pill to help a kid dying. I wonder how our government allows these scams to continue, tax free.

    Republican Repression:

    If Kasich and others who want to send humanity into the Dark Ages want to balance their budgets they could up the tax on the land of their church fathers. I know it would be hard to tax their true income or force the Bishops and others to pay a fair tax on the benefits they receive. I was watching a comedienne last night on TV and she opened my eyes about Kasich who seemed to be the best of a very vile lot. Here is what Planned Parenthood has to say about Kasich.

    "Contact: Planned Parenthood Action Fund Media Office, 212-261-4433

    For Immediate Release: 07.21.15

    TO: Interested Parties
    DATE: Tuesday, July 21, 2015

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    Ohio Governor John Kasich today threw his hat in the ring to join an already crowded field of GOP presidential candidates competing in a race to the bottom on women’s health.

    Statement from Cecile Richards, President, Planned Parenthood Action Fund:

    “Under John Kasich’s watch, Ohio politicians have single-handedly dismantled access to safe, legal abortion across the state, forcing health centers across the state to close.

    “There’s a reason Kasich has tried to keep his extreme views on women’s health under the radar — he knows that they’re deeply unpopular with the American public. Don’t be fooled by pundits who call John Kasich moderate. He’s enacted extreme measures in Ohio, and would do the same across the nation if given the chance.”"


    Yes, we should be bombing abortion doctors and not the churches. Of course we are better off if we can buy automatic weapons and defend our right to avoid our government who might not like our multiple wives who we married before they grew up. Like the father of last election era candidate Romney in his Mexican compound. Please read up on Spiritual Wifery! The Bush beasties had a chance to prove or deny their acts in support of Hitler and eugenics (see letter to German eugenicists from their shipping operation) when the Shrub was gestating. Unfortunately the world got a full dose of extreme people who think god talks to them. He wanted to test every American for psychiatric conditions so the big business of legal drugs could expand more, with his father on the Board of Eli Lilly. Patch Adams offered to test the Shrub and the problem went away. I can imagine the results of that test might have shown us what went on at Jupiter Island and the movies addressing The Manchurian Candidate.

    Of course Patch employs extreme behavior in his varied quests including human trafficking and over-medication. Here is a little about him from the era of the Shrub.

    "Patch Adams, M.D., an unconventional doctor who became a household name through a 1998 movie starring Robin Williams, unloaded on government and medicine while advocating love and compassion as medical treatments to Vanderbilt School of Medicine students attending a two-hour lecture Oct. 25 in Light Hall.

    Sporting partially blue hair with a non-matching tie and accompanying outfit, the founder of the Gesundheit! Institute called President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney “mass murderers,” predicted VUSM’s doctors-in-training will live to see the extinction of the human race and advised the physicians-in-training to withhold prescribing psychotropic medications for mental illness patients.

    “Our government is worse than Hitler because they are making decisions that can make us extinct,” Adams said.

    “We need to find a way to not put murderous people in charge … they are heinous, they are mass murderers. They even told us to call it Shock and Awe.”"


    Personally I think the real bastards have run our governments for too long and anyone who actually thinks unwed mothers are sinful or their bastards undeserving of a real life, deserves to be treated as a criminal.

    Do you think we could test for a Republican gene and get self-confessed psychopathic doctors like Ben Carson to become gay before he gets into our health care system? Would we see a better world if there were fewer gay people or more gay people? You need to read this. http://www.livescience.com/25082-gay...apy-facts.html
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    The effect of the extremist religions in the US cannot be measured by how many of them bomb abortion clinics or go into the armed forces to add to their issues and become serial rapists with the legal knowledge to escape prosecution as a Canadian documentary on CBC showed. It is best measured by what is still taught in schools, or shown in every media outlet.

    "Tea Party and the Right

    10 of the Worst Terror Attacks by Extreme Christians and Far-Right White Men


    Most of the terrorist activity in the U.S. in recent years has come not from Muslims, but from radical Christianists, white supremacists and far-right militia groups.



    http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-an...ight-white-men

    Then there is the matter of destroying knowledge when you can if you fear what others might do with it. Along with the natural human need for power rather than co-operation and true spirituality which accompanies fear. That is a major issue to the present day. Religions do not want their followers to learn the other religion's merits or even their own secrets, so they actually create these fears which might not really be human traits or "base human urges" as Machiavelli and Hobbes would tell us. Not that there are not truly basic human urges, but why do we accept the rational of Empire and pursue power, sex and money? I find more power in other opportunities such as beauty, creativity and spiritual growth in co-operation with each other. But can one person truly trust another or themself? Yes, you can trust people to do what advances their own needs and you can manipulate a large number of them if you give them what they need as Machiavelli knew. But there is much more we could have if we did not need the things which have historically been beyond our ability to control - except as some authority allowed us to have it. Obviously sex was strictly controlled by religions of the West There are issues still with us surrounding these controls and the Cycle of Violence which allowed men to enjoy rape and pillage if they lived through the wars wrought by stupidity including listening to leaders who told us what we had to do - for them!

    But sex is not all there is to making love or spiritual union and we are not really encouraging love by limiting the ways we do what we do in so many parts of this world. I cannot accept the merit of arranged marriages even though I understand the logic of education and wisdom which our parents should have. If they really did know what love was, they would not force their kids to do things which enhance their own lives. Muslims and Hindus or indeed any culture that forces women to do any such thing is barbaric as far as I am concerned. Religions tell us how to hate gays or those who do not practice sex as they tell us it should be done. Then you find them doing things they told you not to do. Somehow we find they still do not pay the damages, or taxes to assist those who have been damaged. It is not just the first generation which suffers. Even those who love the victims who are told to hide their experiences, become damaged or confused. And when those victims do in fact hide the experiences of incest and violence well enough to build a family - it is not easy to raise a child wisely.

    The person they marry or have the family with will wonder if they were raised right. They may have been raised with wisdom and great respect for their fellow man and then find they are married to a person suffering from serious psychological issues. They may begin denial and politically correct ways of avoiding real change along with their neighbors who are advised at work not to ever broach these issues for fear of financial risks. Yes, teachers and psychologists know the laws well enough to see what their associates tell them not to do could lead to lawsuits if they really address the problems - and you can forget politicians - for much the same reason.

    That all sounds very unrelated to a subject which purports to have wisdom as it's primary goal. But each person has every gender and learning style potential and must understand their own self (to which that person must try to be true to) rather than the scruples and morays of archaic empires or worse which still force legal and psychological pain upon the whole of society. I do not accept the premises which often get woven into many spiritual pursuits. In alchemy androgyny became an almost necessity due to societal impacts during various Dark Age initiatives. Before that we had Greek pederasty forced upon wise old men or was it wise old perverts who forced it upon society - it would take a whole book to break that discussion down to where we might stipulate to four or five real choices.

    Women were not allowed to be educated in many circles of society and regions of the world - still true in the present. So if sexual union is one method of wisdom acquisition (which I think it is) then there are matters an intellectual seeker or writer has to consider. Some of these things lead to coded and secret rituals and some of those things are as bad as the taboos and deceits they sought to escape.

    Contrary to all you will read in history or any religion - there was a culture which was not repressive in these regards. It succeeded far better than Empires and remnants are to be found in some sutras, and so-called pagan practices. These matters take more than one book to flesh out properly but let me say how you can learn to operate with equality as a guiding force from history. Trust what you KNOW is Right and not what you are told is right.

    The link which follows does not know what was operating when the Great Pyramid of Iesa was built. It does detail the effects of Empire and what we call history. It tells us how fakers still operate as alchemists and why most of what is written is coded or worse.

    "This more or less deliberate obscurity served two unfortunate purposes. First, it retarded progress since each worker in the field was kept in ignorance, or at least in uncertainty, as to what others were doing, so that no man could profit by another's mistakes or learn from another's brilliance. Secondly, it made it possible for any quack and faker to present himself, provided he spoke obscurely enough, as a serious worker. The knave could not be distinguished from the scholar.

    The first important worker in Greek-Egyptian khemeia that we know by name {Which is not the true origin of any of these matters - and this scholar is limited in understanding the depth of the deceit and destruction of knowledge.} was Bolos of Mendes (c.200 B.C.), a town in the Nile delta. In his writings, he used the name Democritus so that he is referred to as "Bolos-Democritus" or sometimes as the "pseudo-Democritus"."


    http://www.3rd1000.com/history/alchemy.htm
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    In Wiki we have an expert saying anti-abortion violence is a single-issue terror. I say it is not - I say all terrorism is related to the Cycle of Violence instituted and enforced by and through religions and their hegemonists Nation states. In a smaller focus I also include the bombing of churches where priests and pastors ply their pedophilia and rape.

    "Anti-abortion violence is violence committed against individuals and organizations that provide abortion. Incidents of violence have included destruction of property, in the form of vandalism; crimes against people, including kidnapping, stalking, assault, attempted murder, and murder; and crimes affecting both people and property, including arson and bombings.

    Anti-abortion extremists are considered a current domestic terrorist threat by the US Department of Justice. Most documented incidents have occurred in the United States, though it has also occurred in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. G. Davidson Smith of Canadian Security Intelligence Service defined anti-abortion violence as "single issue terrorism". A study of 198287 violence considered the incidents "limited political" or "subrevolutionary" terrorism."

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    I hope everyone has seen Hotel Rwanda and looked into the Commission which found the Catholic and Anglican Church responsible for that genocide. It is not just Black Ops it is every op and all the things you are told are patriotic or needed. Smedley Butler or Romeo D'Allaire (after Rwanda) have spoken the truth. What follows was before the second world war but it was worse for Vietnam vets, and what happened to the women in every place men were billeted is a travesty of equal proportions. Lives of newborn children which the good Christian says have value when bombing abortion clinics; mean nothing when they are born to women who loved and were loved in Newfoundland (one example) but the government would not let them get married or was not willing to let the father have his children join him. I know people who were charged for going AWOL and escaped to Canada after trying to get their wife and child out of Vietnam. My father worked with Canada's Judge Advocate in the military after WWII and he had many similar stories including Catholic churches seizing the money being sent home and putting the kids in orphanages where we now know they were sexually abused just because the mother was sexually active (with the husband's permission having done the same for years overseas).

    If you have invested in the Stock Market you know what he says about bankers and the Wall Street Mob he later fingers in greater detail - is a truth you probably have suffered.

    "Who Pays The Bills?

    Who provides the profits -- these nice little profits of 20, 100, 300, 1,500 and 1,800 per cent?
    We all pay them -- in taxation. We paid the bankers their profits when we bought Liberty
    Bonds at $100.00 and sold them back at $84 or $86 to the bankers. These bankers collected
    $100 plus. It was a simple manipulation. The bankers control the security marts. It was easy
    for them to depress the price of these bonds. Then all of us -- the people -- got frightened and
    sold the bonds at $84 or $86. The bankers bought them. Then these same bankers stimulated
    a boom and government bonds went to par -- and above. Then the bankers collected their
    profits.

    But the soldier pays the biggest part of the bill.

    If you don't believe this, visit the American cemeteries on the battlefields abroad. Or visit
    any of the veteran's hospitals in the United States. On a tour of the country, in the midst of
    which I am at the time of this writing, I have visited eighteen government hospitals for
    veterans. In them are a total of about 50,000 destroyed men -- men who were the pick of the
    nation eighteen years ago. The very able chief surgeon at the government hospital; at
    Milwaukee, where there are 3,800 of the living dead, told me that mortality among veterans
    is three times as great as among those who stayed at home.

    Boys with a normal viewpoint were taken out of the fields and offices and factories and
    classrooms and put into the ranks. There they were remolded; they were made over; they
    were made to "about face"; to regard murder as the order of the day. They were put shoulder
    to shoulder and, through mass psychology, they were entirely changed. We used them for a
    couple of years and trained them to think nothing at all of killing or of being killed.

    Then, suddenly, we discharged them and told them to make another "about face" ! This time
    they had to do their own readjustment, sans [without] mass psychology, sans officers' aid
    and advice and sans nation-wide propaganda. We didn't need them any more. So we
    scattered them about without any "three-minute" or "Liberty Loan" speeches or parades.
    Many, too many, of these fine young boys are eventually destroyed, mentally, because they
    could not make that final "about face" alone.

    In the government hospital in Marion, Indiana, 1,800 of these boys are in pens! Five hundred
    of them in a barracks with steel bars and wires all around outside the buildings and on the
    porches. These already have been mentally destroyed. These boys don't even look like
    human beings. Oh, the looks on their faces! Physically, they are in good shape; mentally,
    they are gone."

    https://archive.org/stream/WarIsARac...acket_djvu.txt

    A Doctor of Psychology I lived with was involved in getting PTSD declared a disorder long after the time of Patton slapping the boy's face in Sicily for being a coward. In the fit of nationalistic pride during every war there have been stupid people doing stupid things and somehow we find reasons to let the same industries bleed us again and again. It is hard to say which industry benefits the most in war - is it the Church - the military - the nations - or the bankers getting their bills collected?

    In the case of abortion rights and gun lobbies we know who is most supportive and we have to assume they do it for 'motivated self-interest' because they do not give a crap about the life of anyone,
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