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    Druidry and Origin Myths

    What I am going to place here to begin this thread results from looking up Gimbutas and her book on The Balts which I read a long time ago. The particular migration out of the region north of the Black Sea is far later than the original migrations of the sixth and seventh Millennium but it mentions peoples who they call indigenous who were assimilated. I say those they encountered were earlier Beaker People and even earlier but smaller initial migrations because most of the people who left the Black Sea area when it was inundated around 5300 BPE went south and east to Tarim and India. There are few (Maybe the Laplanders - see Eddas) who stayed north during the Ice Age. There were also some fishing and short term settlers in warm months. Each area would find local elemental energy forms and they would give them names and grow to understand how to work with these energies. Many of the clans already had clan familiars or totems, but the animals or insects of the new region would differ and some would adopt a new name.

    What Wikipedia has to say is (of course) rudimentary summary only but it dovetails with what was said in the Russian Nobility thread and in particular the 12th Century AD Romanoff return to former lands of their ancestors.

    "The Balts or Baltic peoples, defined as speakers of one of the Baltic languages, a branch of the Indo-European language family, are descended from a group of Indo-European tribes who settled the area between the lower Vistula and southeast shore of the Baltic Sea and upper Daugava and Dnieper rivers. Because the thousands of lakes and swamps in this area contributed to the Balts' geographical isolation, the Baltic languages retain a number of conservative or archaic features.

    It is possible [according to whom?] that around 3,500–2,500 B.C., there was massive migration of peoples representing the Corded Ware culture. They came from the southeast and spread all across Eastern and Central Europe, reaching even southern Finland. It is believed[by whom?] that Corded Ware culture peoples were Indo-European ancestors of many Europeans, including Balts. It is thought[by whom?] that those Indo-European newcomers were quite numerous and in the Eastern Baltic assimilated earlier indigenous cultures (Europidic cultures – Narva culture and Neman culture). Over time the new people formed the Baltic peoples and they spread in the area from the Baltic sea in the west to the Volga in the east.[citation needed]

    Some of the major authorities on Balts, such as Būga, Vasmer, Toporov and Trubachov,[citation needed] in conducting etymological studies of eastern European river names, were able to identify in certain regions names of specifically Baltic provenance, which most likely indicate where the Balts lived in prehistoric times. This information is summarized and synthesized by Marija Gimbutas in The Balts (1963) to obtain a likely proto-Baltic homeland. Its borders are approximately: from a line on the Pomeranian coast eastward to include or nearly include the present-day sites of Berlin, Warsaw, Kiev, and Kursk, northward through Moscow to the River Berzha, westward in an irregular line to the coast of the Gulf of Riga, north of Riga.

    Proto-history[edit]

    A possible early reference to a Baltic people occurs in 98 CE, when Tacitus names a tribe living near the Baltic Sea (Mare Svebicum) as the Aesti (Aestiorum gentes) and describes them as amber gatherers. However, it is not clear if the Aesti mentioned by Tacitus were: (1) a (now-extinct) Baltic people (possibly synonymous with the Brus/Prūsa), or; (2) a Finno-Ugric people (e.g. modern Estonians). The Aesti appear to have inhabited the Sambian peninsula (in or near the present Kaliningrad Oblast[citation needed] .

    Over time, the area of Baltic habitation shrank, due to assimilation by other groups, and invasions. According to one of the theories which has gained considerable traction over the years, one of the western Baltic tribes, the Galindians, Galindae, or Goliad, migrated to the Eastern end of Baltic realm around the 4th century CE, and settled around modern day Moscow, Russia.[citation needed] Finally, according to Slavic chronicles of the time, they warred with Slavs, and perhaps, were defeated and assimilated some time in the 11th to 13th centuries.[citation needed]

    Balts became differentiated into Western and Eastern Balts in the late centuries BCE. The eastern Baltic region was inhabited by ancestors of the Western Balts: Brus/Prūsa ("Old Prussians"), Sudovians/Jotvingians, Scalvians, Nadruvians, and Curonians. The Eastern Balts, including the hypothesised Dniepr Balts, were living in modern-day Belarus, Ukraine and Russia.

    Subsequent Germanic and Gothic domination in the first half of the first millennium CE in Northern and Eastern Europe, as well as later Slavic expansion, caused large migrations of the Balts — first, the Galindae or Galindians towards the east, and later, Eastern Balts towards the west — until, in the 13th and 14th centuries, they reached the general area that the present-day Balts inhabit. Many other Eastern and Southern Balts either assimilated with other Balts, or Slavs in the 4th–7th centuries and were gradually slavicized."


    Most gods of the era from the seventh millennium BPE to the Trojan War era were not gods at all, as we think of them. This is made clear in the work of Robert Graves and Sir Flinders-Petrie which we have covered in conjunction with many other inputs. Totems and elementals are 'representations' of nature and the scientists or Peryllats of the Druid Order knew more than the priestly rituals might (for simplicity sake) include. Before the Trojan War and the rise of former colonies into modern Empires we call Classical or a Cradle of Civilization the education of the Druids lasted eighteen years and a further seven if the individual showed special attributes such as when they were making new alphabets for their colonies. That probably began in the fourth Millennium but MacDari says it was a full millennium of work and based on what we see in languages since Linear A and B beginnings in the DN or DNN homeland Gimbutas was working near the Don and Danube (Which carry the names of DN referred to by Homer and when vowels added is Danaus founders of Greece but also remnants who stayed in places along the way such as Macedonia.) - I will somewhat arbitrarily use the time 2300 BPE to 1300 BPE. The end of this era co-incides with the beginning of the end for Druidic or Bairdic co-operation between these once pan-tribal peoples.
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    To clarify - Druidry or it's origins are largely uncertain. It is a Magian system including any and all knowledge which may have existed before the 8350 BPE meteor which almost eradicated humanity. The six king-bairds on the Pan-tribal council headed by Isis and Osiris speak to that possibility. The name still used for India is Bharat which is translated as Baird. Peter Berresford Ellis wrote that this is where Druidry began, and it is highly likely it is from that region that it re-appeared after the meteor caused all northern climates to be too cold for human habitation in any number. Thus almost all origin myths except perhaps the Puranas are steeped in this pan-Tribal culture which was recovering or re-assembling humanity after the meteor created nuclear winter and the atmosphere was full of volcanic ash, the effects lasting over a millennium. There are other Qabala or Bardic/Troubadour stories such as Ossian and the Grail legends we have covered as well. Then there are books like the Senchus Mor and Naacal Tablets but we have too little certainty about them to make much headway, for the purposes of elucidating what this thread might achieve.

    I connect the Ainu and Druidic Sidhe (See Tamil Siddhar thread) as the far more ancient Magian roots through Idries Shah to 40,000 years ago and through Ogham to further back than that - to the roots of Civilization and sea travel. For the purposes of this thread we can stay in the post flood Glacial era of 5500 BPE onwards to when Rome placed bounties on the heads of Druids and users of their languages (Ogham - see Song of Amergin by Graves and other threads). I can deal with where they went if they did not sell out to Rome in other threads.

    The DN or Gimbutas' core people of the Don area date back or can be traced back to Dolni (see DN in that) Vestonici where we have 27,000 BPE manufacturing sites with 700 kilns in one area. One of those kilns was a double fired approach capable of turning the ceramic soils to metals - and make swords. At first they were probably just copper tools but eventually we get the legendary Sword of Nuada or Excalibur. Unfortunately the Roman and Empire lies about aliens has infected all lore and history, some people even say the Tuatha de Danann are children of the Annunaki because one of their mythical pantheon is Danu (See D'ainu). But the reverse is true. The An to Bel (BL, Belinus, Ba'al and BBL or Byblos and Bible) system came from the Ainu who fathered or engineered white people in their breeding programs. You can watch the extent of the myth on this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHO047ud98E

    I choose one dialogue between two people on this site to illustrate the state of neo-Druidic perceptions. I say at best they are pagans who sense a former great culture.

    "Sep 6, 2014 at 9:14am lorna said:

    I guess the major difference is that Brythonic polytheism is essentially polytheistic and the gods are seen as real, whereas Druids can be pantheists, atheists etc. or hold archetypal views of deity. And I feel the need for commonality in regard to belief about deity...

    I almost feel like I'm crossing paths with the folk who have migrated toward Druidry.

    What are your personal understandings of the relationships between Brythonic Polytheism and Druidry? Why the change?

    {Draig responds}

    Yes I think that's a good distinction to make Lorna, and I do seem to have crossed backwards and forwards along those paths myself over the years. I don't personally see any contradiction between polytheism and nature-based paths although one does not imply the other. Druidry is a much broader and more inclusive approach, at least in the way it is practised today, while Brython has a much more specific focus on the gods and our relationship with them as individual deities, and so too to what we might learn from their historical as well as their current appearance in our culture of veneration and relationship with them.

    I don't see it as a change so much as a difference of emphasis. But I am aware that in Druidry the approach is more broadly spiritual than focused in the way it is here. I think that Brythonic polytheism can certainly express itself through Druidry, though not all druids would necessarily be at home here.

    The Path of the Awenydd: awenydd.cymru

    Shrine for Rigantona: rigantona.net/shrine "

    http://caerfeddwyd.proboards.com/thr...crossing-paths

    In one place on that site there is a partial list numbering many groups around the world who are Druidic. There is not one I would call anything other than Romanized and neo-Druidic. Perhaps the Hibernians are more Druidic as I think about Thomas Paine and the authorship of David Ovason. Certainly a great deal of real Druidry was underground for so long only someone outside of the reach of Rome could make a good case for keeping the flame of such a diverse knowledge alive.

    Rick on Pawn Stars mentioned on a show the other day (or his expert on coins and tokens) that the first US coin had "mind your business" on it. Now I remember, it was one of those three option questions. So, here we have that coin and it has the Heliopolitan sun of Druidry which Paine said was the origin of Masonry. Thomas Paine being the real founding father of the Enlightenment Experiment as far as I am concerned. He, Franklin and George Clymer were the local Council of Three from this hierarchy we can call Rosicrucian (though not like AMORC). Paine also is the person who crafted the Declaration though some places will say it was Jefferson (who was Illuminized) - Jefferson says he followed Paine's work.

    "On April 21, 1787, the Congress of the Confederation of the United States authorized a design for an official copper penny, later referred to as the Fugio cent because of its image of the sun shining down on a sundial with the caption, "Fugio" (Latin: I flee/fly)."

    I wonder what they were meaning with the word 'flee' or 'fly'? Wiki won't be a good enough source. I would imagine it means more than the obvious 'fleeing' from tyranny and more in line with the esoteric Phoenix bird which ties in with the Druidic and Heliopolitan (Phoenician) roots.
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    The next link is a very complex analysis of many issues and origins thereof. Religion is well documented but a certain lost tribes of Israel, Hamitic or Rasta influence is accentuated. So let me say a few things about it first The Berber or Bedouin intermarried with Hatti or Stuarts who are Royals for many millennia but initially there was no primo genitor or familial inheritance of the royal posts. In fact royals were often put to tests like the gauntlet or killed to appease the forces of nature (gods). I accept a great deal of what is said but I say Egypt was founded by the mixed race Brotherhood of Man called Iesa and the portico in the Great Pyramid has this name over it. They are the Phoenicians and are called Hyksos by local Egyptian tribes who did not have the technology to build the Great Pyramid or in earlier times develop the agriculture which disappeared for a thousand years in a period when the Hyksos were not there (long before the building of the Great Pyramid). They had an alphabet for people (Not hieroglyphs or tally system cuneiform crap) in the savannah before it became a desert called the Sahara. The Phoenician elites are Benjaminites and Merovingians who drafted the Hebrew Bible in the Diaspora at Babylon which was NOT a forced treatment of Jews. (See thread and archaeological proof from the last year which is great news for my history.) Hyksos means 'foreigners' or aliens and the root of all Bible myths is here. That is what Professor Albright of John's Hopkins said and he is the Father of Biblical archaeology.

    The Nubians still fought next to their 'brothers' at the fall of Carthage and you know about the Costa Rican spheres and La Venta heads of the Olmecs. There is Ogun in African divination systems like El Coco which is Ogham just as the Libyan script demonstrated by Fell and confirmed by Kelley. You have to get your head out of the sand or some other dark place created with the monsters at the edge of the Earth fiction - people everywhere travelled and shared knowledge - thus Druids! Wherever you see serpent symbology like the Oroborous, Chanes, Naga or Nagual (In itself very Druidic or Toltec) - Druids!

    The author of the link mentions Scythians which is another name for northerners, Hyperboreans etc. (see thread). Travellers and corporate trading Empires or Emporiae are well known Phoenician connections. He mentions Sargon and Akkadians - Plato is one and he could have covered another myth of the Bible there. Plato is immaculately conceived. His work on the elite families or Merovingians and Benjaminites is not accretive or does not add anything for me. I had hoped when he went into the Borgias and Ptolemies before them that he would have evidences I could implement to a guess I have about them being the same family. This author goes too far in attributing blackness to Shakespeare or King James but do remember the Moors of Spain invaded England and many do get the blacker color. This cross-pollination happened long before the Spanish Armada too. In fact the Island of Sicily (Mafia) and Malta is cross-bred Negroid BIG Time. I prove Bacon was not the author of Shakespeare but was a man who knew him and published his work while secretly putting a coded cypher in the books to be later decoded and to thus lay his claim for posterity.

    On the metaphysics including Imhotep and alchemy - I give the author a B+. On the Pyramidal astronomy - the same. In short you will have a hard time finding a better encapsulation.

    But the start is very weak - DNA and those spheres covered by Cremo. Yes, the pygmies are early humans but not that old (Ten million for their ancestors perhaps). The spheres got into those mines by earlier miners such as the 45,000 year ago mines nearby which later had people from Crete and a White Lady of Brandberg connection. (See Thread) I have two other possible explanations for those spheres - time and dimensional. They are troubling to be sure, but minerals will form like a pearl in an oyster in some energy well vortexes of energy. So do read past the start and keep an open mind at all times, please.

    http://www.dralimelbey.com/metaphysi...confusion.html

    These 'experts' continue their discovery by proclamation approaches to science and deny all facts in cases like the Kensington Rune Stone. You can and should decide for yourself, rather than accept the often disproven 'experts' whose arrogance knows few bounds. Consider the Scale of Nature that justified prejudice by putting the Hottentot and North American Indian just above the gorilla and far beneath many other supposedly civilized humans. This science was part of the basis for 'Manifest Destiny' and the genocidal treatment of Indians while dispossessing them in order to civilize them.

    Pottery and sweat houses from NW Europe, skull shaping and trepanning among the elite, Parcheesi, rubber, the wheel, gold laminating, stone masonry that is earthquake resistant, and the royal purple dye of the Phoenicians may have originated in Aztlan and its colonies throughout America. The mathematical and astronomical knowledge enhanced by telescopes seems important when one knows La Venta, Mexico has brought lenses to archaeologists' hands. The Mayans discovered the mathematical concept of zero and a decimal system that nonetheless relegated them to a low position on the Scale of Nature, even after the Pope declared the North American was human some three decades after Columbus. Long before that and back to the time of Goliath the American people were traveling to the Middle East.

    The list of inventions and cultural impacts on the whole world that originate in America are seemingly never-ending yet the Canadian Museum of Civilization and all conservative emissaries of oppression maintain there was no cultural impact! Recently it was discovered that the Mayan language was both phonetic and pictographic but Bishop Landa had clearly stated this was the case while he burned their libraries and librarians. What do you think about a map traced five hundred years ago that identifies the Bering Strait as it was 12,500 years ago? We only achieved this level of detail in 1958.

    Rituals and government like Pelota as an international court of justice and symbol of the movement of the planets around the sun originated in pre-Columbian America. Columbus's interpreters did not speak Chinese or any Asiatic tongue and we know he was an agent of a Templar group like his brethren including Vasco da Gama who flew their red cross on the sails above their heads. We are nearly certain he had maps showing the way to North America and even the Britannica ridicules the Queen Isabella story about the funding of his expedition. I am sorry for the perpetual run-on sentences when I list a few of the achievements of these courageous people we have relegated to the dung heap of history and heresy.

    This is Gimbutas' area and where Dolni Vestonici had ceramics and alloying in 27,000 BCE. Needless to say the people promoting the Bible origins of a Cradle of Civilization never mention Dolni Vestonici where mother goddess figurines were the primary artform. The name fits the Ostrogothic/Mongol Tartar/Hun and DNN link I am developing.

    "The Sumerians may not have been the first people to invent the earliest form of writing, which allegedly appeared c. 3500 B.C.E. The Tartaria tablets, found in the western part of Romania and dating back to around 5300 B.C.E, according to radiocarbon dating, suggest that it was in Eastern Europe that writing first appeared. Some experts have dubbed the writing the Old European Script or the Danube Script"

    http://neweastplatform.org/2015/03/0...-civilization/
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    Long before the Hobbit was found Barry Fell researched 600 graves in Kentucky near the Mounds. I had connected them to mining ops in Lake Superior and I had written about the human artifacts on Flores Island which has been separated from land by 50 miles for two million years. The dwarves were important and Hatshepsut valued one more than a whole boat of precious minerals and such. They provide a source of energy use and harmonic projections which the legends of Druids on the field of battle used, as well as Diancecht's (sp?) healings.

    A very heated debate in academic circles is of great interest to any person who wonders about human origins and evolution. It is a theory that should overturn almost everything academics have said and the Out of Africa story or part of it that says it was recently that we came from Africa - relatively. Alan Thorne who we mentioned above has been a large part of it. If correct we evolved in as many as ten different regions and at varying speeds of culture and brain size as well as body size. Lake Mungo remains have not been as available as I would like. Native religious or cultural concerns have prevented us from knowing as much as we could. The man may have been six and a half feet tall. They are not related genetically to aboriginals and appear to be well over 40,000 years old (Maybe 60,000 or even 100,000).

    The use of red ochre in the burial is different than the local usages. These people appear to have been thoroughly modern as far as cranial capacity and brain design. I think the Beothuk burial at L'Anse Amour from 5500 BCE is the same in every respect. Yes I also think humans have travelled the whole earth for that long and I have proof from every part of this planet that this started 250,000 years or more ago. I believe I can make a case for a million years of ocean travel.

    "In 2001, mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) from the Lake Mungo 3 (LM3) skeleton was published and compared with several other sequences. It was found to have more than the expected number of sequence differences when compared to modern human DNA (CRS). A portion of the mtDNA of LM3 survives in modern humans as a segment found in chromosome 11.[21]


    The divergence of the LM3 sequence before the MRCA of contemporary human sequences is indicated by its grouping with the Insert sequence (Fig. 1B), which other reports have suggested diverged before the MRCA of sequences in living humans

    Comparison of the mitochondrial DNA with that of ancient and modern Aborigines has indicated that Mungo Man is not related to Australian Aborigines. The results indicated that Mungo Man was an extinct subspecies that diverged before the most recent common ancestor of contemporary humans. These results, if correct, may support the multiregional origin of modern humans hypothesis.[21][22]

    These claims are both scientifically and politically controversial and have been met with a general lack of acceptance in scientific communities, the sequence is criticized as there has been no independent testing and some of these differences may be due to posthumous modification and thermal degradation of the DNA.[23][24][25][26][11] Authentication tests need to be performed before the results can be accepted but further testing is unlikely as the indigenous custodians, the Paakantji, the Mathi Mathi, and the Ngiyampaa, are not expected to allow further invasive investigations.[27]"


    There is also a heated debate about human speech origins. I have read that Neanderthal skulls showed no room for speech lobes until about 150,000 years ago. I considered it a reasonable assumption that inter-breeding was happening to cause that alteration but I wonder if Homo Sapiens had speech at that time too. I think some humans did and that includes the Mungo Man and Ainu but science will still need to prove it. More importantly is the development of consciousness and critical-thinking which archaeology now shows us was around long before the academics started down the path of this debate. Why don't they integrate knowledge from all fields of human endeavour? Isn't it more important to know how humans communicated even if they did not speak the languages any better than apes? I certainly know they were highly intelligent and able to communicate and know many things a lot of these scientists don't. Like ESP, attunement with plants and all lifeforms, mathematical and artistic refinements of great things that are not alien given but might even include action-at-a-distance communication or contact with a collective consciousness (Ein Soph, aliens, ancestors soulful collective and other things that many say are not outside the realm of possibility). http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/ic...ch2000TICS.pdf

    The origin of qabala (verbal tradition) began before the ability to speak and might be connected to the soul or wisdom acquisition of the most early of knowledge systems even before Tantric and sutra sex and dancing (dream dancing or Dirvish-like ecstasy). The ability to attune with wisdom in nature probably precedes humanity. It is cosmic consciousness and has a corollary or opposite which is also part of the truth we find in Abraxas and the Oroborous. This cosmic fire and ice has origins long before Aristotle or his inspired progenitor Pythagoras the Druid. You can see it in the Qabala's Tree of Life which I did for my book Diverse Druids. http://www.invispress.com/DRD/graphics.html
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    'Kenyanthropus platyops':

    - Perhaps the 6,000,000 year old men found by a maverick who went behind the authorities back at the Olduvai Gorge will be proven to actually not be outside the australopithecine lineage. But the Leakey family has found a 3.5 million year old human that definitely is, and it was announced after I had written the things related hereto earlier in this effort. I love how these synchronicities occur and how much there is for us to know about ourselves.

    "The 'Gang' Hits Again

    Those famed Leakey fossil hunters add a new limb to our family tree - by Simon Robinson, Nairobi.

    Like other members of the famous 'hominid gang', the sharp-eyed fossil hunters employed by paleontology's Leakey family, Justus Erus spends three months a year scouring the dry, bone-rich riverbeds around Lake Turkana, in northern Kenya. It is a scrubby, desolate landscape, where the people are desparately poor and gun-toting young men are a menacing presence. But it is hallowed ground to scientists because of the clues it offers to early human history. Still, even after five years, Erus, a 30-year-old Turkana tribesman, had scored nary a hit-just bits of animal bones and teeth.

    Then one scorching morning during the final week of the gang's explorations in August 1999, at a site called Lomekwi, Erus noticed a white object, just a cm or two across, sticking out of a patch of brown mudstone. 'I thought maybe it was (the bones of) a monkey,' he says. Beckoning the expedition's co-leader, Meave Leakey, wife and daughter-in-law, respectively, of Richard and Louis Leakey and renowned in her own right, he asked her opinion. By nightfall they realized that they had uncovered the partial remains of a humanlike skull.


    The fossil turned out to be a totally new prehuman species and last week reignited one of paleontology's greatest debates: Did we evolve in direct steps from a common apelike ancestor between 6 million and 4 million years ago? Or did the human family tree sprout branches, some of which petered out? {No integration of Mungo Man, the 6,000,000 year old find, the Black Skull or many other possibilities!}

    In the past 20 years the Leakeys and others have dug up overwhelming evidence showing that between 2.5 million and 1 million years ago, the then lush woodlands and savannas of eastern Africa-where our family tree first took root-were the habitat of rival species, most of which were evolutionary dead ends. But what about before that? Paleontologists have generally agreed that there was just one hominid line, beginning with a small, upright-walking species known as 'Australopithecus afarensis', most famously represented by 'Lucy'., a remarkably complete (about 40%) skeleton found in Ethiopia in 1974.

    Now {Ha!} that view is being challenged. The new skull, described by Leakey and six colleagues, including her and Richard's daughter Louise, 29, in 'Nature' last week, pushes the presence of co-existing species back another million years, to between 3.5 million and 3.2 million years ago. That's right in Lucy's time. Yet it is so different from Lucy that they assign their fossil, which they call 'Kenyanthropus platyops', or 'flat- faced man of Kenya', to a new genus, or grouping of species. 'This means we will have to rethink the early past of hominid evolution,' says Meave Leakey, head of paleontology at the National Museum of Kenya. {Who didn't want the Dalhousie professor digging up the 6,000,000 year old bones on the Yale site, that he says aren't australopithecine, to upstage them.} 'It's clear the picture isn't as simple as we thought.' Even Lucy's discoverer Donald Johanson, director of the Institute of Human Origins at Arizona State University, concurs. 'This is a reminder that there are probably a lot more species out there,' he says.

    K. 'platyops' not only had a much flatter face than Lucy, she also had smaller teeth. From the teeth, the scientists conclude that it probably ate fruits, berries and small insects while A. 'afarensis' consumed tougher vegetation like roots and grasses. {The skull appears to have teeth as we do. This description of things bears little fruit of the nature of our ancestors or how they felt, thought and developed the things that really count. It would fit very nicely with the 'cave man' fiction and our 'gradually evolved' species though. Thus you can rest secure in the knowledge that YOU and especially the European (you) are the highest form of life ever found on the face of this planet.} 'They were unlikely to compete,' says team member Fred Spoor of University College London. 'Two species don't usually occupy the same ecological niche.'

    Old flat-face could displace A. 'afarensis' as a direct link in the human lineage. Or it may be a part of a branch leading to 'Homo rudolfensis', a species with a strikingly similar face that lived in East Africa between 2.4 and 1.8 million years ago. 'You find something beautiful and new, but the conclusion is you actually know less,' says Spoor. 'But we are getting there.' - with reporting by Andrea Dorfman/New York." (1)


    When all things are considered they are being disingenuous, and of course since this report I have been proven correct by at least five more finds and a re-analysis of Homo Habilis's cranial capacity. Spoor or the others do know that the afarensis lineage is not related to us. As to the existence of super robustus australopithecines in the time, they don't mention that because the probability of 'occupying the same ecological niche' increases the likelihood that humans and hominids banded together and formed protection groups against these larger foe with ability like their own. That is a possibility I think leads to social and cultural development that would push the meaningful aspects of human life back a great deal further. The spiritual and communicational possibilities of commerce and ritual as well as dance and herbalism, expand as people form larger units. It is likely that sexual relations between different hominids occurred and made mutational potentials to generate genetic streams of over a hundred different types in Africa. To focus on Africa forgets Siberia (Diring entry) and Mungo Man. It loses sight of Gondwanaland where the genetic material that became all these hominids formed before the split to South America, Australia etc. This leads to many different places on earth developing hominids. Yes, there is much to learn; but if we don't consider all the facts we will keep our heads in a very dark place that doctors might have to use surgical tools like obsidian (as fine as any today) to remove. They have recently found an ape which the researchers think is a cross between a gorilla and a chimpanzee. It is still living in some numbers and I look forward to geneticists telling us what cannot be done while their colleagues say otherwise - some more. And those geneticists did so after I wrote much of this book. They found up to 1.8 million years ago that pubic lice which are only on humans diverged in North America.

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    The impact of the ice ages and inter-glacial effects on the rise and fall of ocean levels and the earth readjustments to the departure of the ice cap cannot be over-looked in the human historical picture. Research in the area is far greater than in the recent past and we can learn what might have happened to earlier civilizations on earth. Atlantis is a given name for a civilization that inhabited many islands and coastal regions, the way I see it. The idea of one central location makes little sense when one considers such things as Ice Ages and changes in the flow of the Gulf Stream and climate that resulted. Because it lasted for from 30,000 to 100,000 years and may have co-existed with other civilizations rising and falling it is most inauspicious to debate one specific time when it was in Tara or Crete or the Azores or Bimini or even Finias. That seems to be the usual debate among the over 25,000 books written about just this one lost civilization. As long as people don't integrate all facts they inevitably just come up with theories to fit pet or prevailing concepts. In Gateway to Atlantis, 'The Search for the source of a lost Civilization' we see a far better scholar who is doing the right kind of investigation. Mapping of the ocean bottoms and geological understandings as well as studying glacial deposits and tree rings gives a better picture of history than history books.

    "In 1960 a scientific paper by Wallace S. Broecker and his colleagues Maurice Ewing and Bruce C. Heezen, of Lamont Geological Observatory at Columbia University, Palisades, New York, appeared in the 'American Journal of Science'. Entitled 'Evidence for an Abrupt Change in Climate close to 11,000 years ago', it advanced the theory that a 'number of geographically isolated systems suggested that the warming of world-wide climate which occurred at the close of Wisconsin glacial times was extremely abrupt. (3)

    By examining sediment cores taken from various deep-sea locations, Broecker and his team were able to demonstrate that around c. 9000 BC. the surface water temperature of the Atlantic Ocean increased by between six and ten degrees centigrade, (4) enough to alter its entire ecosystem. More significantly, it was found that the bottom waters of the Cariaco Trench in the Caribbean Sea, off Venezuela, suddenly stagnated, {The Gulf Stream being sent back south from hitting the land around the Azores when the water level was lower suddenly started warming the Iceland and British Isles regions, again.} showing that an abrupt change in water circulation had taken place coincident to the warming of the oceans. (5) Additionally, the silt deposits washing into the Gulf of Mexico from the Mississippi Valley abruptly halted and were retained in the delta and valleys, as the waters from the glacier-bound Great Lakes switched direction and began draining through the previously frozen northern outlets. (6) With extreme rapidity, the water levels of these lakes shrank from maximum volume, down to the much lower level they occupy today. (7)

    Among the data drawn on by Broecker and his team to make their findings was the work conducted in 1957 by Cesare Emiliani of the Department of Geology at the University of Miami. He found that deep-sea cores displayed clear evidence of an abrupt temperature turn around in 9000 BC. was responsible for the other changes set out by Broecker et al. (8) However, since other cores examined by Emiliani had not shown the same rapid transition, he decided that the anomalous cores lacked vital sediment layers covering a period of several thousand years of ecological history, and so dismissed them as unreliable. (9) Yet Broecker and his colleagues disputed Emiliani's interpretation of the results. They could find no reason to suppose that key sediment layers could have been lost in the manner suggested. As a consequence, they reinstated Emiliani's controversial findings as crucial evidence of a major shift in oceanic temperatures around 11,000 years ago. (10)

    Although Broecker et al seemed keen to promote a date of c. 9000 BC for the rapid transition from glacial to post-glacial ages, there are indications that this event did not occur until a slightly later period. At least three lake sites in the Great Basin region revealed carbon-14 dates around 8000 BC for a maximum water level shortly 'before' they experienced a sudden desiccation after the withdrawal of the ice sheets. (11) In addition to this, marine shells from the St. Lawrence Valley, which provided evidence of an invasion of seawater coincident to a rapid ice retreat, frequently produced dates 'post' 9000 BC. (12)

    Broecker and his colleagues accepted the presence of these much lower dates and suggested that the whole matter was complicated by the fact that there had been an estimated 200-year resurgence of glacial conditions, known as the Valders re-advance, around the mid-ninth millennium BC. They therefore acknowledged that their own findings might in fact relate to the recession of the ice fields after this time, bringing the dates of their suggested 'major fluctuation in climate' and the 'sharp change in oceanic conditions' down to well below c. 9000 BC. (13)

    THE EVIDENCE OF POLLEN SPECTRA

    Further evidence that dramatic changes accompanied the transition from glacial to post-glacial ages came from the work of Herbert E. Wright Jnr, of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, (14) and J Gordon Ogden III of the Department of Botany and Bacteriology at the Ohio Wesleyan University, Delaware. (15) Both examined the pollen spectra range from sediment cores taken from various lake sites in the Great Lakes area and found they provided clear evidence of an abrupt shift in flora at the end of glaciation. The spruce forests that had thrived in the cold harsh climate for many thousands of years were supplanted swiftly, first by pine and then by mixed hardwood forests, such as birch and oak. Deciduous trees, as we know, only thrive in a warmer climate.

    The significance of these findings is the acceleration at which this transition took place. In an article for the journal 'Quaternary Paleoecology' in 1967, Ogden pointed out that some pollen spectra samples showed a 50 per cent replacement from spruce to pine occurring in just 10 centimetres of sediment. (16) In one sample taken from a site named Glacial Lake Aitken in Minnesota, the transition from 55 per cent to 18 per cent spruce pollen occurred in only 7.6 centimetres of sediment, re- presenting a deposition corresponding to just 170 years. (17) The problem here is that conventional geologists and paleoecologists consider that the transition from glacial to post-glacial ages occurred over several 'thousand' years, not just a few hundred {The time it takes for one or two trees to live and die.} years.



    These findings so baffled Ogden that he was led to comment: 'The only mechanism sufficient to produce a change of the kind described here would therefore appear to be a rapid and dramatic change in temperature and/or precipitation approximately 10,000 years ago.' (18)

    What kind of climatic 'event' might have been responsible for this 'rapid and dramatic change in temperature' {Could this relate to the buttercups found frozen and undigested in Mammoth mouths of the Arctic?} in the American Midwest, sometime around c. 8000 BC? Had it been a consequence of the proposed cometary impact that devastated the western hemisphere during this same epoch?

    The knowledge that some 65 million years ago the Cretaceous period had been abruptly brought to a close by just such an impact has softened the most stubborn of minds concerning such a possibility. Broecker himself, in an article written for 'Scientific American' in 1983, now accepted that asteroid or comet impacts might be responsible for the instigation and termination of glacial ages. (19)

    This is indeed what Emilio Spedicato has suggested as the mechanism behind the revolution in climate and ocean temperature experienced during this period..." (20)


    We will return to implications related to this and the work of Mr. Collins throughout this encyclopedia as we develop real history from actual facts rather than the Bible Narrative (with all the alien garbage). It should be evident that these climate changes had significant impacts on society and created a loss of culture and technology in certain areas of the world. There were probably people who took advantage of these spiritual and other perceptions that resulted as well.

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    Is the grip on human origins which sometimes seems all about Africa or Out of Africa going to continue; or will we see some authors making sense and describing how pre-white people from Africa developed advanced culture and had great wisdom rather than mere ape-like creatures stumbling here and there. I don't have a problem with Africa being the origin of humans and can even accept we are all descended from one strain of early man. But I do see other possibilities worth discussion. This is especially true in reference to China where I see 2 million year ago humans and a mouse like creature which is a first mammal going back into the time of the dinosaurs. The next link is a book detailing some of the problems China research has had as well as hopes for real scientific analysis of a more stable hominid and culture than it appears other parts of the world have grown from. Part of this is probably due to climates in the south not having been covered by ice every few thousand years.

    I was so happy twenty years ago when I read about Alan Thorne and Mungo Man. I hope I am alive to see the day we have DNA from Denisovan Man connected to Polynesians through the Ainu, and the culture of these Ainu and their interbreeding with Neanderthal which is now becoming accepted as entirely possible. Yes, it will be nice to see linguists like Churchward being proven correct again but also to find the legends of the DNN there too.

    I suppose you can put me in the multi-regional camp of the Out of Africa theory but I also think the geological split of Gondwanaland about 25 million years ago to South America and India carried the same genetic materials which became humans in Africa.

    "In paleoanthropology, the recent African origin of modern humans, or the "out of Africa" theory (OOA), is the most widely accepted model of the geographic origin and early migration of anatomically modern humans. The theory is called the "out-of-Africa" theory in the popular press, and the "recent single-origin hypothesis" (RSOH), "replacement hypothesis", or "recent African origin model" (RAO) by experts in the field. The concept was speculative before it was corroborated in the 1980s by a study of present-day mitochondrial DNA, combined with evidence based on physical anthropology of archaic specimens.

    Genetic studies and fossil evidence show that archaic Homo sapiens evolved to anatomically modern humans solely in Africa between 200,000 and 60,000 years ago,[1] that members of one branch of Homo sapiens left Africa at some point between 125,000 and 60,000 years ago, and that over time these humans replaced more primitive populations of the genus Homo such as Neanderthals and Homo erectus.[2] The date of the earliest successful "out of Africa" migration (earliest migrants with living descendants) has generally been placed at 60,000 years ago based on genetics, but migration out of the continent may have taken place as early as 125,000 years ago according to Arabian archaeological finds of tools in the region.[3]

    The recent single origin of modern humans in East Africa is the predominant position held within the scientific community.[4][5][6][7][8] There are differing theories on whether there was a single exodus or several. A growing number of researchers also suspect that "long-neglected North Africa" was the original home of the modern humans who first trekked out of the continent.[9][10][11]

    The major competing hypothesis is the multiregional origin of modern humans, which envisions a wave of Homo sapiens migrating earlier from Africa and interbreeding with local Homo erectus populations in multiple regions of the globe. Most multiregionalists still view Africa as a major wellspring of human genetic diversity, but allow a much greater role for hybridization.[12][13]

    Genetic testing in the last decade has revealed that several now extinct archaic human species may have interbred with modern humans. These species have been claimed to have left their genetic imprint in different regions across the world: Neanderthals in all humans except Sub-Saharan Africans, Denisova hominin in Australasia (for example, Melanesians, Aboriginal Australians and some Negritos) and there could also have been interbreeding between Sub-Saharan Africans and an as-yet-unknown hominin (possibly remnants of the ancient species Homo heidelbergensis). However, the rate of interbreeding was found to be relatively low (1–10%) and other studies have suggested that the presence of Neanderthal or other archaic human genetic markers in modern humans can be attributed to shared ancestral traits originating from a common ancestor 500,000 to 800,000 years ago."


    And now we have 2.4 million year old human artifacts in a south China cave as well as many more proofs to make it more exciting for little old me.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_..._modern_humans

    Now you may think genetic info transfer such as the schools set up by St. Germain in Vienna which I have written about in some of my books (Including those on Hitler) is pure poppycock. I know there is this kind of thing in my life.

    Here is research which explains it genetically, but you have to combine what I said above - they are just starting to find out these things (like the lymph system to brain and psychic points as well as chakra stuff I have reported). I am not kidding - I know more about this stuff than the people spending billions of bucks on it. I did anyway - which is not saying much.

    "The research published in the open access journal Genome Biology focuses on the use of horizontal gene transfer, the transfer of genes between organisms living in the same environment.

    'This is the first study to show how widely horizontal gene transfer (HGT) occurs in animals, including humans, giving rise to tens or hundreds of active 'foreign' genes,' said lead author Alastair Crisp from the University of Cambridge.

    'Surprisingly, far from being a rare occurrence, it appears that HGT has contributed to the evolution of many, perhaps all, animals and that the process is ongoing, meaning that we may need to re-evaluate how we think about evolution.'



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz3ugc10efc "

    Imagine the use of gene transfer technology when we know how to enhance the soul or brain uses!

    http://www.nature.com/mt/journal/v15.../6300278a.html

    Abaris is a real person with credible accounts of his visits to Greece. He was the last Dean of Studies in the remnant Bairdic Education or Druidic system including Pythagoras who was initiated near Marseilles (Massalia - a Phoenician emporiae) at a Druidic University Abaris is a title meaning Rabbi or teacher.

    http://www.witchcraftandwitches.com/witches_abaris.html
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    This excellent book from 1914 is (of course) talking about early man being 100,000 years old and we have beaten this kind of stupidity back a very long way. But in some circles we still find people thinking art began in the Lascaux caves of just 30,000 years ago, the author addresses. I was so happy to see art found in Indonesia dated over 500,000 years ago in 2014. It is a well-written authoritative book written by one of the very best in academia with input from all the best experts.

    As you read it try to think about naturally occurring weapons like shark's teeth (megalodon was still around perhaps) sabre-tooth tiger teeth, Rhino horns and straight elephant tusks, straightened mammoth tusks (Used for building near Moscow in digs dated to this era.) and petrified dinosaur teeth. The obsidian rock could make a knife that modern surgeons would be happy to use and at Catal Hayuk Jacquetta Hawkes (Atlas of Archaeology) said the people were precociously modern. But that was just 10,000 years ago and it might be a stretch when I say that the same kind of culture might have existed near Dolni Vestonici 29,000 years ago. I take a little from it in reference to Java Man and Neanderthal. In the era this book was written human origins were dated around 500,000 years at the very oldest and Java Man was not given as old a date as that. Many still said it was not human in the early 1950s but in the early 1970s we knew it was about a million years old and part of what we then named as Homo Erectus. I think we will find 12 million year old humans some day soon.


    "This accords with the estimate of the brain capacity[P] of 855 c.cm. (Dubois) as compared with 1,230 c.cm., the smallest brain capacity found in a member of the Neanderthal race. Second, as seen from above, we are struck with the great length of the calvarium as compared with its breadth, the cephalic index or ratio of breadth to length being 73.4 per cent (Schwalbe) as compared with 73.9 per cent in the Neanderthal type skull; this dolichocephaly accords with the fact that all of the earliest human races thus far found are long-headed, although according to Schwalbe(22) all anthropoids are broad-headed. This is a very important distinction. The third feature is the prominence and width of the bony eyebrow ridges above the orbits, which are almost as great as in the chimpanzee and greatly exceed those[Pg 79] of the Neanderthal race and of the modern Australian. The profile of the Trinil head restored by McGregor (Fig. 38) exhibits this prominent bony ridge and the low, retreating forehead. In the latest opinion of Schwalbe(23) Pithecanthropus may be regarded as one of the direct ancestors of Neanderthal man and even of the highest human species, Homo sapiens. He also considers that when the lower jaw of the Trinil race becomes known, it will be found to be very similar to that of the Heidelberg man, the final conclusion being that Pithecanthropus and the nearly allied Heidelberg man may be regarded as the common ancestors of the Neanderthal race, on the one hand, and of the higher races on the other. There are, however, reasons for excluding Pithecanthropus from the direct ancestral line of the higher races of man."

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/43820...-h/43820-h.htm

    So we have academics who quote the best of the era before them and who stick within disciplines that do not study the other disciplines enough to even keep remotely close to updated. Then we have a lack of integration due to over-emphasis on minutiae in their chosen discipline which these people then have to earn a living at - teaching other fools who do not question or think - while attacking those who do - like Gimbutas, Hawkes, Steen-McIntyre, Meggars, Nuttall (just to name the women).

    But they all stick to the story line that they are at the zenith of human development or some racist Scale of Nature.

    Meanwhile people are fed up and getting more insight from ancient wisdom acquisition disciplines and healing methods like Yoga and acupuncture. The only new philosophy is a new word describing an old approach and recycling these approaches in psychology from one fad back to another. Thank dog for the atom-mysticists like Faraday (who was weak on Math but good on observing) and Sir William Crookes.

    Worse than these things is the outright destruction of artifacts deemed not in line with the paradigm theories. It did not start with St. Patrick who may have been responsible for 1200 hand drawn books being destroyed - he is generally acknowledged to have personally dealt with 150 Irish books by himself. He doctored the most important book of all. I think it is the book Strabo said he knew the Celtiberians had a 7,000 year written history of their people in. That would of course mean these people had a writing language 6000 years before his 'advanced' Greek culture we have been forced to learn about as they Hellenized and appropriated former civilized people who had colonized them. Then later you get churchians writing as if the Senchus Mor is an extant book of laws of the Irish when it is in fact doctored Roman propaganda rather than the 25,000 year history of the Keltoi or 'ancient ones'. Yep, and if you read Wikipedia you would believe the Roman Empire liars.

    https://archive.org/stream/ancientla...cuoft_djvu.txt
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    The Dryads became known as Sibylls when forced into Roman usage. There is good reason to believe the women were equal to men in the Druidic Pan-Tribal era.

    "It is the fundamental difference between the time period that we are treating here and the late Neolithic development which caught Gimbutas´ attention – and if her thesis is to be scientifically refuted it must be met with more serious contra-arguments than what Hayden and Milisauskas have managed to put forth.

    This does not exclude the possibility that armed combat may have happened during the early period. What it shows, however, is that these must have had an extremely limited influence….even if copper axes could have been used for cracking skulls than to work with wood does not imply that they necessarily had to be employed for such murderous purposes. The overflow of stone daggers across vast areas during the later Neolithic gives an entirely different impression, and here I do consider a military interpretation as the most reasonable.

    Goddess Worship? {This should not be interpreted as evidence that the priests are not equal in power. I love to worship a woman - lol.}

    What is the evidence for the claim that the religion of “Old Europe” was dominated by female deities…?

    My impression is that there is clear evidence in both West Asia and Southeastern Europe during the Neolithic for an overwhelmingly feminine pantheon…

    We have in these regions a rich artistic tradition of figurines, where the major part of the anthropomorphic images represent women. From the Balkan peninsula, Gimbutas assumes that only 2 or 3 percent of the figurines represent men. No one has in seriousness dared to question the female dominance in the material existing on the Balkan peninsula and in the Aegean area…and even today it is a generally acknowledged fact among archaeologists who have treated the question…

    …the general opinion since the 19th century – that these figurines for the most part had a religious meaning and were parts of a cultic connection – was severely attacked by Peter J. Ucko in 1968…[who claimed that the figurines] could have had a series of different functions, of which the most important probably [according to Ucko] were as playthings for children!…[Ucko´s thesis] created many followers who in one area after the other wanted to show that all images that traditionally were thought to represent goddesses either did not have a religious or cultic function…or else were impossible to gender-determine…

    Today the situation seems to have stabilized itself somewhat. The evidence that the Neolithic figurines had cultic functions have accumulated during the years…We may also see that in exactly these areas where female figurines play a part in the material culture, we also have unusually strong evidence for extremely influential goddess cults in the beginning of the historical era…the figurines were often placed in temples…

    The female religious dominance in Southeastern Europe {DNN} is crystal clear and in my opinion beyond doubt.

    The same is true for Malta, where an abundance of female figurines are found within the Megalith temples…the Maltese culture is the only one that combines Megalith construction with a production of female figurines that clearly belong to a cultic connection. Malta is also placed in the geographical division point between Southeastern European “figurine culture” {See Dolni Vestonici ceramics of 29,000 years ago.} and Northwestern European Megalith culture.

    In his criticism of Gimbutas, Hayden attacks her goddess thesis based on exactly the Southeastern European material that Gimbutas presents in her Goddesses and Gods of Old Europe. His critique is hardly serious since he avoids discussing the core question: The overwhelming dominance of female anthropomorphic imagery in a cultic connection! Instead, he attacks Gimbutas for seeing a serious of abstract symbols as symbols for the goddess, without once mentioning the fact that these symbols actually do have a material connection with the goddess figurines – that is, they are engraved into these figurines or on the temple walls where the figurines were kept – a fact of hard evidence that has caused Gimbutas to make these connections.

    For example: That the serpent is connected to a goddess cult in the entire region is well-known by everybody who ever studied the subject, but this hard evidence is not acknowledged by Hayden who [completely disregarding all archaeological evidence resorts to modern psychoanalysis and] claims: “if we were to take a psychoanalytic approach, snakes would be clearly masculine forces…all common sense and psychiatric wisdom would associate it instead with the phallus or masculine forces.”

    While the situation in Southeastern Europe and on Malta is pretty clear, the entire Western, Central and Northern Europe remains. Here the situation is far from clear. There are very few anthropomorphic images at all….I have not seen…any attempts to make a general statistic over the gender distribution of the images…My impression however is that even when it comes to Western and Central Europe there is an overweight of female images in those cases that may be gender determined at all…Gimbutas (attempts) to argue for a goddess religion that covered the entire European continent. In chapter after chapter she discusses various kinds of symbols and shows how the symbols found in Southeastern Europe…are connected to various goddess types that reappear in Central- and Western Europe (and often in a Megalithic connection).

    This connection between goddess cult and Megalith graves is strengthened by the clear majority of those statue menhirs that have been found in connection to Megalith graves that clearly represent females…the few anthropomorphic images that are found in the Megalith graves are female…Other than that the…Megalithic art in general give considerable associations to “femaleness” rather than “maleness” – and to the degree the more abstract symbols may be interpreted as sexual symbolism the “feminine” alternative is far easier to accept than the “masculine” – of course this is a matter of subjective interpretation…

    If the above mentioned hypotheses are valid, to be buried in a Megalith grave would mean a re-entering into the womb of the goddess…

    Gimbutas treatment of the Western European material is of course speculative. The evidence is not that clear in the Megalithic area…She has still succeeded in making it credible that the great number of similar symbolic material throughout the entire European continent and which is in some cases traceable back into the Paleolithic era, may be connected to female, religious imagery…

    There are regions (in Western Europe) that display a quite different image…the Neolithic hunting cultures of Northern Europe…here we find a slight tendency towards male dominance in the anthropomorphic figurines in the cases where they may be gender determined at all…It is possible that this difference mirrors a hunting and gatherer culture in the fringes of Neolithic Europe having developed an ideology of their own…

    There are quite strong arguments speaking for Gimbutas´ attempt to compare great parts of Europe into a unifying religious community…outside of Southeastern Europe the image is unclear…her thesis is a bold, but still quite probable hypothesis."


    https://goddessdocumentary.wordpress...rija-gimbutas/
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    Now it might surprise you that people who call themselves Druids and have been members of OBOD for fifteen years would challenge someone like myself with my name, even if they did not know I authored a book on Druids (In it's second edition I just saw - I get nothing from the publisher.). I have written another book titled Druid's Eggs and one on Ogham and so on. But that is how cults go, they accept dogma and build on what people will accept when you say it with conviction. I asked him how his organization could be Druidic and survive the Roman bounties and Christian purges, and bribes. Here is another example; I just mentioned in the last post that Dryads were made or forced to become Sibylls or seers for the Romans. So I went to check on the Dryads and number one of the google hit parade was this person saying Dryads are not female Druids - they are Greek tree spirits. "About Druids and Druidry - Pàganachd

    www.paganachd.com/faq/druids.html

    Jump to A lady druid is a “dryad”, right? - A lady druid is a dryad, right? No. A “dryad” is a Greek tree-spirit. It has nothing to do with druids.


    Here is someone with a different tune, calling the Druids a holy female sisterhood. Frankly I do not know which is worse.

    "Female Druids also known as dryads (Greek) or oak nymphs were oracular priestesses, each with her own personal tree spirit. Dryads were also known as priestesses of Artemis, whose souls dwelt in trees. Dryads could also assume the shapes of serpents and were called Hamadryads or Amadryades.

    Dryadism and druidism (Scottish) were two phases of the same religion, restricted to a female priesthood in the earlier, matriarchal stage, but later open to male priests as well. Irish churches were originally known by the old druidic name of dairtech, or “oak-house,” a sacred grove. The Christian church attacked the Druids for their paganism, and also for their tendency to include sacred women in their ranks."


    http://www.kathycrabbe.com/2010/08/d...le-sisterhood/

    Hold on to your hat! No kidding this could actually knock your hat off. Outside your body (in your aura or part of your solar body) you have five chakras to go with the seven in your body that co-ordinate the inner chhi and nerve energies (Which Eastern thought knew thousands of years before modern neuroscience.). The people who built the stupas and temples knew a thing or two about these energies also. The Irish and Keltic menhirs and megaliths we have said have piezo electric charges also act as antennae as the Pyramid collects solar and earth grid energy. And we have many threads on the cultural to mind-body evolution and at -one -ments where this will apply. It will also apply to the psychotronic generation through the ankh in the Pavlita generator and the caduceus coiled Kundalini serpent on staffs like the medical groups have and which staffs of ancient esoteric adepts had that were enhanced into the Tepaphone. The shem-an-na conical stones also have similar design.

    "The cosmic energies of the heavens above are sometimes channeled into the buildings and megalithic structures of earth using an antenna-like conical structure (i.e. a Spire). On ancient religious architectural buildings like the stupa or pagoda, the mast/yasti/horin is the conical structure that functions as the antenna of the building....

    The bending of the spine of the pagoda is derived from the knowledge that came to the Far East from India and India derived it from the Egyptians/Aryan Scythians/Israelites. The spine of the pagoda and the pagoda itself move in a very serpentine manner, which hints at the presence of the Danites {DN?} among the founders of this style of architectural design....

    Jacob’s ladder is the spine/axis mundi of the Earth and the human bodies of the Israelite and gentile followers of Christ, who yield their vessels to the influence of the spirit of the Most High God, I AM. According to scripture, God does not dwell in temples made by the hands of men but his church is the human bodies of those same Israelites and gentiles who yield their will to his, and Christ is the cornerstone of the temple (Ephesians 2:20). However, for pagan temples and the bodies of those who yield their mind’s to the Anti-Christ, the keystone/cornerstone or spine of their build is the backbone of the god Ptah/Osiris....

    The energies of specific celestial bodies that are channeled into the temple of Osiris/Baal effectively transform the minds and bodies of the individuals exposed to the energy. The shape of the building, in this example, a stupa or gab H1354, magnifies that energy inside of the temple chamber and quickens the process of “enlightenment”. This enlightenment can be defined as a unification of the mind and body of man (the human/physical temple) with the mind and body of the spirit/god/energy of the temple. These temples are typically built in specific locations that align with particular energies that aid the process of transformation and enlightenment....

    By chance or design some people, due to their proximity to the alignments, are more influenced by its energies. Perhaps in the distant past this was planned for spiritual leaders, like druidic priests – key occurrences of their lives such as conception, birth and spiritual initiation occurred at strategic locations along the alignments, such as Avebury, during times of peak energy activity. For them, their body’s cells are exposed to a maximum level of energy. The very liquid crystal structure of billions of cells within their bodies resonates with the energy emanating from the fault lines....

    “The Laver of Water of Purification refers to the Waters of Binah, the Female Power refelcted in the Waters of Creation.” (p. 61 GD Second Knowledge Lecture) In the Practicus Ritual, the symbolism of the Stolistes, the Cup of Water is discussed:

    The Cup of the Stolistes partakes in part of the Symbolism of the Laver of Moses and the Sea of Solomon. On the Tree of Life, it embraces nine of the Sephiroth, exclusive of Kether. Yesod and Malkuth form the triangle below, the former the apex, the latter the base. Like Caduceus, it further represents the Three Elements of Water, Air and Fire. The Crescent is the Water which is above the Firmament, and the Triangle the consuming Fire below, which is opposed to the Celestial Fire symbolized by the upper part of the Caduceus....

    The conical crown channels the energy of energy frequency of Nimrod/Osiris/Baal/Buddha and the wearer becomes the embodiment/temple of the god. The knowledge of how to unite/resonate with a god/energy was guard secret and perhaps adds another aspect to the idea of “divine right” of rulership. In the Hindu/Buddhist practice of Vastu Shastra, it is believed that the temple not only is symbolic of the house of the deity on earth but it is the actual deity itself. The human body is a temple, so, adorning it in certain regalia will change the shape/reception of the antenna and temple/body. This will allow the body to channel a particular energy frequency, through oscillation, transforming the human bod/temple into the deity. This is one way that god-kings ruled by divine right or divine rite, for on certain people possessed the divine knowledge/mysteries of metaphysics and occult rites."


    https://arianasiresearch.wordpress.c...of-the-temple/

    So you can see form has it's place in the memes and icons of all things. The Pharaoh's hats, the Witch's hat and your dunce cap all focus energy to your Third Eye or Pineal gland we have said was also in the caduceus and looks like a pine cone. Your pineal gland has crystals and acts like a crystal radio set of old as the book The Wonder Child told us people like Gazzaniga and Edelman are researching. Any pressure or energy approaching the Thalami are processed and used by the adept. It was so effective that the Chanes of Central America boarded their kids head to make it separate the brain hemispheres to allow the cosmic energy direct access to the Thalami and Third Eye. Dagobert's trepanning was for this reason and not what academics tell you, he was a Merovingian King of France. One of the reasons laid out by Gardiner for the need of the fresh human thalami is those crystalline structures including Rhodium and Iridium. Thus you have the psychic supermen like the Bush Family who do the Bonesmen Obscene Rituals. I believe it wears off in short order and was just kidding about the Bush family being super.
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