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    First Robot - 60 AD

    They say this is the first computer that was programmed but I would give that more credence if they explained why the far earlier Antikythera is not a computer (Many see it as such) or was not easily far more amazing. I wonder if they know about a homunculus and whether one had been achieved or would be considered a robot. Hero also had inventions such as - steam engine (Thales earlier had observed a possible application of electricity), vending machine and applications for the usages of this robot in the art of majick and priestcraft. Imagine saying Abracadabra and on cue up goes the curtain or down it comes - Ali Baba had competition. There are electrical generators attributed to a Roman Emperor in it's very early days who might be a myth but Numa's generators are real. In fact the Ark and Great Pyramid seem to me to have usages as electrical devices.

    "Thursday, July 05, 2007

    A programmable robot from 60 AD

    Who built the first programmable robot? It's almost impossible to tell, and most people would put good money on Leonardo da Vinci. But now Noel Sharkey, a computer scientist at the University of Sheffield, UK, has traced the technology way back to ancient Alexandria.

    In about 60 AD, a Greek engineer called Hero constructed a three-wheeled cart that could carry a group of automata to the front of a stage where they would perform for an audience. Power came from a falling weight that pulled on string wrapped round the cart's drive axle, and Sharkey reckons this string-based control mechanism is exactly equivalent to a modern programming language. He describes it in this week's issue of New Scientist magazine.

    To prove it could work, the magazine's tech writers took up the challenge and constructed their own version of Hero's cart. We're certainly not the first to try: in 2003 a bunch of engineers at a conference in Colorado spent a few hours making a crude version using Lego. You can read about their efforts here (4.6 MB pdf).

    Our cart was made from a child's scooter, a broom handle, wood, string, and lead weights from an old sash window. And, fortunately for us, Hero left some advice in his writings: friction is a problem, he warned, so you'll need a smooth floor to run it on. He also recommended using pre-stretched string, and even gave us the cart's measurements: one cubit long, four palms wide and three palms high - that's 45cm long, 35cm wide and 23cm tall. After a bit of tweaking, we succeeded in making our cart move forwards, backwards, and turn."

    Then there are the Caves of Hathor where you can see designs including light bulbs as well as the Abydos glyphs which are fixed in a later era but still impress. The people using electricity to electroplate gold onto jewellery in the third millennium BCE did not write it down - for obvious reasons. How about the Rhind Papyrus with prosthetic medical devices? Since Hero was the curator of the Great Library is it possible I am right to suggest he used earlier books that were subsequently destroyed? I also would suggest if he was doing that as we know was done for the Rhind Papyrus a millennium before him - why would he or the earlier engineers not have used these batteries and steam engines in conjunction with each other? Did the Antikythera have an engine to move it's gears and make it even more of a computer - I think so.

    If you are a kindergarten student and you read about Hero and his devices, in the Catacombs or some such place; does that mean you discovered the first use of robots - will you get credit for that from other academics in institutions the world over? Maybe you can imagine a 14 year old in Cambodia reading what follows and demonstrating it - thus being credited as a prodigy like Imhotep who is credited with these arts. If the kid told a publisher or TV producer they got the knowledge from an alien father - they could be rich overnight.

    "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Edwin Smith Papyrus documents ancient Egyptian medicine, including the diagnosis and treatment of injuries.
    The medicine of the ancient Egyptians is some of the oldest documented. From the beginnings of the civilization in the late fourth millennium BC until the Persian invasion of 525 BC, Egyptian medical practice went largely unchanged but was highly advanced for its time, including simple non-invasive surgery, setting of bones, dentistry, and an extensive set of pharmacopoeia. Egyptian medical thought influenced later traditions, including the Greeks."

    Then you might know about a Royal Astronomer who saw things in the Great Pyramid long before the horde of recent profiteers. His name was Charles Smyth. This report also credits a person who noticed Pi was in the Pyramid - did any of the authors know about Pythagoras going there and learning the Pythagorean Theorem from an earlier source? Really I ask you seriously - what is going on?

    It is not a case of not knowing when a person like Imhotep lived (dates range from all over and I think he was a Hyksos (means foreigner) from before they took back control of their colony or place they far earlier built the Great Pyramid. The knowledge of the Pythagorean theorem in the Pyramid does not even require that a person named Pythagoras lived. But here is a wrinkle to consider.

    "Joseph, son of Jacob (Israel), was Imhotep, of Egyptian History

    Egyptian History is consistent with the Bible {Of course it is - Ptolemy directed Manetho to make it so. He wanted his family legend confirmed for eternity - they being related to the DNN Herakles. DNN is Phoenician is Hyksos etc..}

    Joseph was the 11th son of Jacob, the Patriarch of Israel. Joseph was 30 years old when he became the sage or visier to Pharaoh and lead Egypt through seven years of famine. The Pharaohs became wealthy and powerful because of Joseph. Joseph brought up all the land of Egypt (except for that of the priest’s) and reduced the Egyptian people to servitude. He married the daughter of the High Priest in Heliopolis (Capital city ‘On’). He lived to the age of 110 and ensured the survival of the Israelites.

    Egyptian history records a visier to Pharaoh Djoser of the third dynasty by the name of Imhotep who lived for 110 years and saved Egypt from a seven year famine and made Egypt very wealthy. He is said to have designed the first pyramid, been the first to used columns in architecture, performed operations and established the practice of embalming. He wrote many literary works and was the first to use papyrus.

    Could Joseph and Imhotep have been the same person?"
    Last edited by R_Baird; 04-02-2016 at 09:11 PM.

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