03-09-2015, 10:34 PM
And to summarize in a few words we have - "To Be or Not to Be". Yes, the great bard did "glimpse the waves of the marvellous" as Victor Hugo did say. Others say we are spiritual beings having a brief illusory physical experience. Question is - will circuitous non-factual verbiage lead mankind towards a beingness of value that doesn't diminish what could be "nobler". And then there is "To Be or Not" before becoming and then knowing the choice at a personal level rather than accepting what "seems to BE' without question.
Originally Posted by Chester
In Gnostic terms we are all delivered as ignorant creatures with the ability "to BE" more. But the Gospel of Thomas can be misinterpreted as it is to some extent in the following link. When it refers to "the bubbling spring" it is using code which goes way back (IMHO). Nature nourishes but priests and mere mental masturbation take the discipline out of true learning thus one should choose "NOT to be" what others want and rather take "one more step towards the waves of the marvellous" which Hugo says you can do by asking what Shak-his-spear meant. Yes, that is one of the spellings that exists while wee willy was with us.
In Islam there is a reflection of Egyptian thought regarding creation - and an allegory I say. The original symbols are indeed powerful connections to consciousness (see Daniel Matt's "Unsheathing the Soul" which I think I have included here). Collective consciousness of all that is - is g_d in many religious roots or origins. Lay people do not understand enough to separate myth from fact. Islam talks about commands through words which are almost like conscious script in a similar manner - thus 'Kun' is a command to come into existence or to become manifest or "BE". (A description of creation) https://books.google.ca/books?id=rUM...tah%22&f=false
Bernard Mandeville brings us the Fable of the Bees which Childeric, Napoleon and the Sarmoung Brotherhood of the esoteric secret groups including the Merovingians (and the Melchizedek Mormons) use as a main symbol. He says 'Virtue is just a pretence which man has invented for his own advantage.'
Would you agree that a real power of the mind is the ability to cause the wind and rain to behave as you wish? The Yamabushi shamans who arrange healing firewalking (see thread Firewalkers) do the smoke moving which I have seen Wiccans and Native shamans do. But St. Columba did it as an Arch-Druid demonstrating his power to another Druid in a well-known historical account. I have been party to something similar as well.
This paper deals with the effect we can have on how large our brain will be, how our species adapts and the interplay with genetic structure to generate the ability to speak.
There was a passage in Simone Weil's book 'Gateway to God' that we read together and that she was able to see my favorite author’s meaning through. Krishnamurti and Teilhard de Chardin say it in fewer words but Simone does a great job on page 39 of her book:
"To anyone who does actually consent to directing his attention and love beyond the world, towards the reality that exists outside the reach of all human faculties, it is given to succeed in doing so. In that case sooner or later, there descends upon him a part of the good, which shines through him upon all that surrounds him.
The combination of these two facts - the longing in the depth of the heart for absolute good, and the power, though only latent, of directing attention and love to a reality beyond the world and of receiving good from it - constitutes a link which attaches every man without exception to that other reality.
Whoever recognizes that reality recognizes also that link. Because of it, he holds every human being without any exception as something sacred to which he is bound to show respect... Whoever in fact does not feel this respect is alien to that other reality also."
When did the potential of consciousness become useful? A long time before there was a word for alchemy most likely. Here are some links of value to any person.
This book of mine shows a real and true picture of a great man who had the support of a great woman. I hope you can download it for free.
There is a modern day call for the Romans to allow women priests just as the Gnostic Cathari did. The historical Jesus (Yeshua bar Joseph - not born of a virgin or any other NONsense) was married as Mishnah says a Rabbi or teacher must be. His lifelong mate was Mary Magdalene (Magdala, also of Bethany, another place that her father owned a home in is Alexandria, where they both were schooled by Comarius). You can be sure that any wise man at any period of time drew inspiration and counsel from women if those women were educated or even if they simply were interested in learning. In fact the apostles are not particularly well-educated and all their writings are not by them - they were dead when the Gospels were written by and large (35 to 75 years after the death of Yeshua - who did not die on the cross).
So when you read the following you should know that Mary was just one of many women in the time of Jesus and the century after him who Mary Rose D'Angelo says are as important as the apostles in the development of the Christian church. She details this in Vatican II. I liked John Paul II and understand the forces of heretical Roman usages which he decried in 1999 as a two thousand year history of "heinous acts". His words in the following are political, and there is no Papal Infallibility despite what the Catholic Encyclopedia says. The Pope never was at the center of the universe with all revolving around him on a Flat Earth (The Firmament). When this churchian behemoth has day care centers in the Vatican and women are made whole rather than treated as dirty (Yes, when he visited Toronto - per dogma and ritual - no woman was allowed to go near the ritual stations during or before his Mass.) I will believe in the possibility that serial rapists are capable of rehabilitation.
In some orthodox Jewish cults the Rabbi sets the date for a marriage and asks the woman when her period is so the "dirt" will not infect the proceedings.
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04-01-2015, 08:58 PM
R_Baird, I envite you to not post on this thread. I started it long ago and there are those who read it as my post. Thank you.
Time is like a ride at the theme park— temptation peppered with movement toward chaos. Its opposite is even more expansive in potential. Timelessness is the reality of this existence with Time being the dream or illusion. Eternity is the All, encompassing essence of the Totality (One with no second). It is the generative order or implicate unity. Mentality is multi-purposed, multifaceted, and multidimensional. In thought finality, Mind is the Totality. Mind rides the Light but is not reliant upon it. Light is capable of creating the universe in illusion as a virtual reality, what some call the moiré arena. God is Mind...and Mind issues forth in God’s motion — The Enigmni. Mind moves from nothing to everything and back. Mind is the experience of existence where all creativity is found in a catalytic state of reinvention. It is a constancy of change. There is nothing faster than Mind, then comes Light. Because Mind is present with Light they appear as One...they are two, but light is the expression of the Mind — the broadcast. One is God the other is His Means — the Holy Spirit...the mover — Enigmni.
The First Logos or Creation is the Son; the Word catalyzes ideas into existence in sequence. The Word is REASON. Mind is first cause with no last. Last is an illusion of Time, which moves as a linear aspect generated in Timelessness. Linearity can be accompanied by dimensionality. Increased dimensionality adds complexity and solidity to Time for those who ride the Light. The more complex, and the more coherent, the hotter is the form. Mind is not affected by any of its creations, but its creations are affected by each preceding creation that manifests in directed evolutional sequence. Feedback created naturally by Mind and Light is essential to coherent knowing of each preparatory creation. Congruence, Empathy, or Love and Knowing is amplified by each structural dimension created. 1•3•7 is the number of Creation.
Beings or Mind segments that are attracted by each amplifying and complex structural level will localize in sequential fashion. From the smallest atomic structure to the most complex. Thus is the spiral of creation. Mind is uniformly everywhere, everything, and Eternal. Mind is the atmosphere of be-ness. Humanity is represented by a multitude of structural levels animated by total mentality. Light creates the illusion of body and its programs of DNA supply the variety. Mind selects the product based on cause and consequence. Mind is God. Man is a part of God. God is the Whole.
Mind may seek itself in exponential feedback waves that are everywhere at once yet holographically focused by a reflection mechanism on the physical side called a Brain (gestalt / sequential computerized device). Such a virtual organ can and does make localizations think they are individuals capable of god-like creation. It is an illusion that must be learned due to sequential limitations. We are one. Individuals created in localizations use brains as a secondary focusing agent to create a holographic virtual domain wherein personality rises. Personalities create dimensional illusions that flux and must be reinforced by recognition or observation from others. These brains coalesce mind into a sense field capable of creating solid reality. This virtual reality is hard copy to a conscious mind aided by a lens of being. The lens collects data for evaluation by the All.
The generative order is symbolized by a being (person) seated in outline form. It is fractalian in nature and existence is created within the relation to a mathematical (geometric) interface inherent with this symbol. Inside the symbol is the void-potential, outside is the creation. Where the two meet is the implicate order or cursor of God’s Eye. The leading edge is where Time is on the FLY. Timelessness feeds the potential that smears out over created space awaiting localization of monadic mind.
This smear of potential is as the multifaceted or holographic plate (information float), all potential is inherent within its confines as feedback looping is progressing faster than the speed of Light. It is Mind. This combination allows Light to seem to have "Prior Knowledge," to a singular localization.
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04-02-2015, 09:10 AM
Would like this thread to be for those who know its History...
Ron O. Cook AKA Chester
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04-02-2015, 12:05 PM
Time is like a ride at the theme park— temptation peppered with movement toward chaos. Its opposite is even more expansive in potential. Timelessness is the reality of this existence with Time being the dream or illusion. Eternity is the All, encompassing essence of the Totality (One with no second). Presence here is the One Mind interfacing with this massive experiment that those here call Reality. The Multifaceted, Holographic atmosphere interfaces via its Light and creates a means of motivation in physicality. We have not breached the level that we once came here to complete our mission here in Time Space. We must reclaim it and move to a higher level. We must awaken to our true being and becoming.
It is the generative order or implicate unity. Mentality is multi-purposed, multifaceted, and multidimensional. In thought finality, Mind is the Totality. Mind rides the Light but is not reliant upon it. Light is capable of creating the universe in illusion as a virtual reality, what some call the moiré arena. The Atmosphere of existence is everywhere and everything as it is the reality of being and becoming. It permeates the all of itself. It has always been and will ever be. This world among many, is the focus of relevant data via mind into the requirements of necessary elementals for manifestation therein.
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04-16-2015, 10:15 AM
The Atmosphere of existence is everywhere and everything as it is the reality of being and becoming. It permeates the all of itself. It has always been and will ever be. This world among many, is the focus of relevant data via mind into the requirements of necessary elementals for manifestation therein.
04-22-2015, 03:54 PM
Unbeknownst to most "pencil thinkers" is the coming explosion of a new human paradigm that will change behaviors and separate demographics along the lines of mental capacities. There are higher realms of potential for mankind that are about to dawn due to the expanse of AI and Virtual Reality merging with Minds of openness and creative understanding. When these elementals converge a new age will open up to those who see the possibilities of a burgeoning of technological, computerized creations that will push civilization into every aspect of development beyond the dreams of Science Fiction. This potential is dawning. Get ready the mental thrusters!