Atlantis - Fact or Fiction?

[Xela]

Atlantis is the subject of a legend about an advanced island civilization that was destroyed or lost. Stories about Atlantis are first mentioned in Plato's dialogues Timaeus and Critias, in which characters say it was destroyed by an earthquake or a tsunami about 9,000 years before the time in which Plato wrote.

Some people believe that the stories are fictions made up to serve the purposes of Plato's dialogs. But others take them as if they were serious historical accounts.

Some cultures have "lost civilization" myths. In some cases, it has been argued that there is a common historical event or real "lost civilization" at the root of some or all of these legends, but there is considerable disagreement between the competing hypotheses. It may be that these legends have arisen from many different historical events, and are only just now being associated by modern "theorizers" because of their similarity. It may also be that these legends are entirely fictional, but for some reason have arisen and remained popular in many different cultures at different times.

[Siouxie]

The idea of Atlantis was first expressed in the works of Plato (c. 428–348 or 347 B.C.E.), the Greek philosopher, who stressed that a perfect world exists in Ideas. For example, a shoe, according to Plato, exists as an idea before a craftsperson makes the material object identified as a shoe. The material world, then, is a reflection of ideas, never quite reaching the perfection of ideas, but which serve as models for which the adepts might strive.

Source: http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Plac.../Atlantis.html

[Chester]

I tend to think that Atlantis is much more than what Plato spouted in his day. Beyond his works the evidence of some great civilization is held within the artifacts in situ, such as found in Egypt, India, China and the Jomon of Japan. Of course there are many more in Peru and Bolivia. The striations of their grand works are still an enigma. If we truly realized that the Atlantis we popularly hear about here and at other sites, might have been a result of the fine expressions we find in ancient artifacts or the better engineering expertise observed at the bottom of the piles of stones situated all over the Earth. Plato might have given it a good press, this concept of ancient civilizations, but it does not take away the fact that there are parts of something big scattered all over the surface of this planet to tell us different. Then there is the genetic manipulations situated all over the Earth also. Corn comes to mind and the potato. Genetics seems to never be considered as a means of transfer, but it is perhaps the greatest evidence of engineering within the particulates of the parts of existence.

Humanity had to arrive from somewhere and the story of our past is certainly hidden all over and under the sediment of ancient civilizations. The tip of the iceberg is waiting for someone's discovery. The ice cubes we get from academia is short-lived.

[Paulo Riven]

Atlantis is a Fact and Real. The Philosophers, King, Egyptian Priest, Temple of Neit, all Real. The Philosophers Swore to truth in the Dialogues. The scholars denied them fin favor of their own ignorances for lack of a City.

That was then...2580 years ago.

This is now...




A lie has not Spirit of Survival.

[quaentum]

Atlantis is unfortunately not real. It was the invention of Plato and even he referred to it as "a story for our time". Were it of the size and location as Plato indicated, it most certainly have been written about by others which is not the case. To believe that man could not create great wonders of stone without the aid of a supposed advanced race is to have little faith in the human race. Mankind is capable of great achievements without outside help from advanced societies or races. One example that springs to mind is the Saint Petersburg Cathedral.

[Chester]

Perhaps if you keep an open mind it will later come to realize the fallacy that you have fallen into...there was indeed a great culture often called Atlantis. I know whereof I speak. I have invested many assets that show positives for such a vast culture.

[vanity]

Atlantis was true/real, the account says it is "true history" not a ficitious utopian illustration.
Atlantis did & didn't literally sink its "sinking/submergence" was (continental) shift. Atlantis was nth &/or sth America/s.
As America/s Atlantis is a major key to world history re ancient world colonisation.
The most likely location in Americas so far seems like Jim Allen's 'Atlantis in Bolivia', with the Caribean/CarolinaBays/CentralAmerica/SpanishMain (Cayce, Zap/Ericson) the next most likely.
However it was 900 yrs not 9000: Mavors 9000 yrs = 900yrs and Spanuths 9000 yrs = (div by 13) months both reconcile with a 10 month year calendar which seems to of changed to 12 months about the time of the 12th dynasty. (Though that is just the end date, it stretched back to Solutrean/Clovis and down to about the Bronze age (eg Wessex).)
(Sorry it won't allow me to upload few pictures (1 of possible Atlantis canal along off-Florida coast) because only allows certain small size height/width. Some are at http://picasaweb.google.com/seanbam2...PudnObcgvXAcA# and some are in my facebook pics (surname bambrough).)
Sean.

[katesisco]

Gavin Mendez makes a good case in his new book The Secret of Atlantis. I think the did not go far enough. Before the global weather settled down and the seas overcame the shock of sterility, the people who became the civilization of Atlantis localized on Crete were roamers in independent groups. The DNA GM identifies as being most strong on the Keewanaw penninsula in Upper Michigan USA were identified in Europe as originating to the west of Ireland (that fits--the west of Ireland is America) and traveling East into the hills of Bavaria. This early DNA localized to Germany where the deep salt mines were opened and used heavily. Without easy fish the enforced use of salted game and those indispensable eels were used just so people could travel on foot. That was what allowed the grain and cattle cultivation for protein.

[lordkevin]

Thanks for the nice post....

[valentindolzhenko]

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Atlantis - Fact or Fiction?

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CIVILIZATION IS THE ERA OF DINOSAURS FOUND IN RUSSIA

Here, documentary photo:
http://picasaweb.google.ru/valentindolzhenko
Here the article:
http://www.exsradio.com/apps/forums/...aurs-1458-2358

In the vicinity of Moscow found the fossilized remains of life for people, dinosaurs, other animals and plants
At a higher level of civilization compared to our time, shows found record of the foundation of Moscow in the era of the dinosaurs 1458-2358 (900 years of Moscow). Цивилизованная Атлантида, как и современный Мир не могла быть только Европой Civilized Atlantis as a modern world could not be just Europe

The people, who lived thousands of years ago, saw many remains of previous civilizations. We are so wild, that have no idea about it.
And nowadays you can find many such items in the presence of numeric and alphabetic characters.

To get acquainted with the material presented: over 80 found objects, 270 photos, depicting the products that made the man, as well as petrified during lifetime the remains of people, dinosaurs, other animals and plants.
Perhaps this is only part of the museum, which was established in the vicinity of Moscow, at different periods of the long-standing era of the dinosaurs on Earth. Accordingly, scientific dating, this period lasted for 150 million years, from 220 until its end 65 million years ago.
Found a method of identifying products that were manufactured in a civilized era of dinosaurs. Civilized Atlantis as and a modern world could not be just Europe, which was flooded and remained at the bottom of the ocean, from 150 to 95 million years ago....